Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

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short of five or six people, the uchiha clan was a bunch of losers. Those 5 or six people were really strong though...

its kind of like the saiyans in DBZ, except in Naruto the Uchiha's are generally the bad guys...
 

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The only thing that comes of it, is the Sharingan, so no. I believe you are reading into it too much.
 

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As an overall clan yeah I agree. But no individual Uchiha is at hashi's level besides Madara.

so your sayingitachi or even tobi wouldnt b able to hold thier own against the first:D crazy fool:p
 

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It's confirmed now that Madara was stronger than Tobirama so Tobirama was scared.

Todays chapter confirms that their love growing stronger enough so they can go along with Senju and eventually the reflection of their love turns into a great power that is beyond Senju's love.
Their hatred of loosing their comrade giving them the power of EMS.

That's why Tobirama is happy that Uchiha are annihilated now. U_U

I think the way to get EMS to transplate a relative sharingans ???
 

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so your sayingitachi or even tobi wouldnt b able to hold thier own against the first:D crazy fool:p

Hold their own? yes. Win? No. Madara is the Uchiha who complete mastered the Sharingan to it's fullest, born and raised in a time of constant war. He gain battle tactics, knownledge on many jutsus, and have the power that rivals Bijuu (Perfect sasunoo). He's soloed all 5 kages without being serious and he still lost to Hashirama even with Kurama under his control. Obito and Itachi cannot solo the 5 kages sir. The 4th Raikage already showed to be to fast for the MS to follow his movements as we seen with Sasuke. Tsunade showed she can break Sasunoo and heal the others and herself. Mei lava can melt Sasunoo or use Boil element or use water, fire or earth jutsus. Mei can use hidden mist jutsu to weaken the sharingan's abilities. Gaara can pull Itachi out of Sasunoo like he did Madara or constantly attack Obito to test his time limit since they wouldn't know. He can attack from the air or ground, defend against Amaterasu. Oonoki has dust, earth, wind, fire (i think that's what makes dust)jutsus, have the greatest attack power of the kages, can fly, make things heavy or light.

So if Hashirama can handle Madara then no way can Itachi or Obito really last that long let alone solo him.
 

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Hold their own? yes. Win? No. Madara is the Uchiha who complete mastered the Sharingan to it's fullest, born and raised in a time of constant war. He gain battle tactics, knownledge on many jutsus, and have the power that rivals Bijuu (Perfect sasunoo). He's soloed all 5 kages without being serious and he still lost to Hashirama even with Kurama under his control. Obito and Itachi cannot solo the 5 kages sir. The 4th Raikage already showed to be to fast for the MS to follow his movements as we seen with Sasuke. Tsunade showed she can break Sasunoo and heal the others and herself. Mei lava can melt Sasunoo or use Boil element or use water, fire or earth jutsus. Mei can use hidden mist jutsu to weaken the sharingan's abilities. Gaara can pull Itachi out of Sasunoo like he did Madara or constantly attack Obito to test his time limit since they wouldn't know. He can attack from the air or ground, defend against Amaterasu. Oonoki has dust, earth, wind, fire (i think that's what makes dust)jutsus, have the greatest attack power of the kages, can fly, make things heavy or light.

So if Hashirama can handle Madara then no way can Itachi or Obito really last that long let alone solo him.

I agree with this, and Mei can mess up Obito by making him absorb either acid or Lava
 

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Yeah, maybe physically stronger, but up in the head it's another story. xd

Nah man Senju are physically stronger. Remember they got sages body. Uchiha have spiritual energy or whatevs. The Senju clan was top dog in the past for a reason. The only clan that had any chance of fighting them on equal ground was Uchiha. Not every Uchiha clan member gets MS, and Senju clan members who have wood release or ridic. regenerative ability are also rare.

I disagree with this thread. In my eyes as a whole they are still equal. Better than both of them is someone with both bloodlined.
 

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why do you hate uchiha so much??i mean i love both senju and Uchiha but tobirama did say what he said and if it wasnt true to any extent then hashirama would have jumped in and said something..other words stop being so grumpy xd
Your right i was being a little grumpy but only because i have to state facts because people keep blowing things out of proportion. People are always using the wrong references to estimate or assume power. The Uchiha have the eyes and the Senju the body, are you saying you eyes can lift more than your legs i'd like to see the day. Tobirama only stated that they were more emotional. They were that why only because they had the ability to see the world for what they were making it HELL. And I never said I didn't like the Uchiha, Obito is one of my favorite characters.
 

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been waiting for a chance to use that one lol
How am I hating on you by stating facts stop trolling. And how are you going to call someone a hater when VEGETA is YOUR profile pic lmaoo you Loser :rofl:
 

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How am I hating on you by stating facts stop trolling. And how are you going to call someone a hater when VEGETA is YOUR profile pic lmaoo you Loser :rofl:
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For all the Tobirama haters if you read today's manga you will see that Tobirama was so eager to face Madara that Orochimaru had to restrain him. Thread over :scorps:
 

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Kishimoto confirmed a few things with 619:

EMS Madara = Hashirama
EMS Madara >> Tobirama "impossible to deal with"
MS Sasuke > SM Naruto
EMS Sasuke > KCM Naruto

We already saw this, and as fans I think most people have always known in the back of their minds Naruto and Sasuke were in the same league. This is true of everyone I know that watches this series except the retards on NarutoBase (yeah, you guys mad). Sasuke is the only one in Naruto's league, except Madara that blows everyone else away currently.

People already knew it though.
 
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