Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

[Retsu]

Itachi and Shisui don't count as they work for the village, and any Uchiha without EMS, or Senju DNA goes blind anyway, so I see no threat.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

the random uchiha are all apparently chuunin to jounin

 

[sasuke base]

As an overall clan yeah I agree. But no individual Uchiha is at hashi's level besides Madara.

i always thought this the uchiha are a stronger clan but the first was just stronger than madara. maybe madara was stronger to i dont know. when they show us there fight we will see

 

[2big]

did it eh? You obviously are a troll

 

[MrSimple]

the random uchiha are all apparently chuunin to jounin

^ This. Even the police man had 3 tomoe.

Tobirama didn't listen his brother how to actually act with Uchiha.
That's why I was claiming that their union was a failure. But of couse we need a storyline.

 

[romulus3]

O YEA? UZUMAKI > UCHIHA. /thread

 

[TonyMontana]

Madara was scared of Hashirama sooo SENJU>>>UCHIHA!

 

[khaoz]

i agree that there power of love was great to physically change them but i don't think tobimara was scared i think he just didn't want an uprising and he wanted stablility in the village and when you have someone volitile you try to direct it in a helpful way and try not to let it vear toward destruction

 

[Phoenix110]

Am dissapointed that this silly conclusion is your opinion,the manga doesn't prove that the Uchiha are greater than the senju, it just confirms that the capacity of the uchiha for love is greater than the senju and that the uchihas are sore losers while the senju are cool and undercontrol even if they lose love.Summed up it means that the Uchihas are phsycologically weaker than the senju but they channel their loss into mental energy resulting in special chakra and improved sharingan

 

[MrSimple]

Am dissapointed that this silly conclusion is your opinion,the manga doesn't prove that the Uchiha are greater than the senju, it just confirms that the capacity of the uchiha for love is greater than the senju and that the uchihas are sore losers while the senju are cool and undercontrol even if they lose love.Summed up it means that the Uchihas are phsycologically weaker than the senju but they channel their loss into mental energy resulting in special chakra and improved sharingan

You're free to believe in whatever you want. I'm just giving my thoughts.

 

[ThatGuyYouKnow15]

Yep that's why none of em beat Hashirama.

 

[CharlieBundels]

Madara was way stronger than Tobirama.. Hashirama was the only one to destroy him, back in the days.

 

[DeathandHealing]

It's not "Love"

It's the Uchiha's unwillingness to move on and accept lost.
They are way too attached and instead of Morning one's loss they turn into
a selfish closed minded child.

Pretty much to the same extent that when obito got friend zoned he wanted to end the world.
It's not about "Love" or caring, Only selfish desires.

many, I mean many other Ninja have lost so much more to the hands of the uchiha but you don't see them constantly trying to kill them. That's the difference between Naruto and sasuke. naruto can see the world for what it is and understand that we all share pain. Sasuke on the other hand doesn't care about anyone else but himself and his own "Feelings".

Sasuke is the very thing that is wrong with the world. He isn't avenging his family,brother or friends.
He is avenging for the sake of being a "team Player".

Team Player= Fans, citizens who feel so strongly about being a fan of a team or a member of a nation that they will hate,fight and oppose anyone different just for the reason that they are outsiders. Even if they are the ones who are bad. AKA Hitler and Germany against the Jews.

"Summed up it means that the Uchihas are phsycologically weaker than the senju but they channel their loss into mental energy resulting in special chakra and improved sharingan"

That does sum it up. The Uchiha are like Children. Angry Emo teenagers who just won't group up.
That's why itachi was so different, he was mature. itachi was like a college graduate compared to the rest of his the "No one understands my feelings" Clan. The Uchiha have easily granted power above 90% of the rest of the ninja world yet they can't get over themselves.

 

[slider89]

yea but they're all f*cked up in the head

 

[MrSimple]

It's not "Love"

It's the Uchiha's unwillingness to move on and accept lost.
They are way too attached and instead of Morning one's loss they turn into
a selfish closed minded child.

Pretty much to the same extent that when obito got friend zoned he wanted to end the world.
It's not about "Love" or caring, Only selfish desires.

many, I mean many other Ninja have lost so much more to the hands of the uchiha but you don't
see them constantly trying to kill them. That's the difference between Naruto and sasuke.
naruto can see the world for what it is and understand that we all share pain. Sasuke on the other hand
doesn't care about anyone else but himself and his own "Feelings".

Sasuke is the very thing that is wrong with the world. He isn't avenging his family,brother or friends.
He is avenging for the sake of being a "team Player".

Team Player= Fans, citizens who feel so strongly about being a fan of a team or a member of a nation
that they will hate,fight and oppose anyone different just for the reason that they are outsiders.
Even if they are the ones who are bad. AKA Hitler and Germany against the Jews.

"Summed up it means that the Uchihas are phsycologically weaker than the senju but they channel their loss into mental energy resulting in special chakra and improved sharingan"

That does sum it up. The Uchiha are like Children. Angry Emo teenagers who just won't group up.
That's why itachi was so different, he was mature. itachi was like a college graduate compared to the rest of his clan the "No one understands my feelings" Clan. The Uchiha have easily granted power above 90% of the rest of the ninja world yet they can't get over themselves.

You just ruined it with the last part.
You just could say that the union between these two clans should never happen, because there are so many flaws and issues we have seen so far. And both sides were wrong.( but not gonna write the same thing over and over though).

 

[ixc]

Shishu
Obito
Izuna

You forgot Itachi, and maybe Sasuke.

 

[madarasasuke5]

Sort of may be he was sacred.but he said said their love of losing their comarades may them hard to handle doesnt mean they were stronger than him.

 

[DeathandHealing]

You just ruined it with the last part.
You just could say that the union between these two clans should never happen, because there are so many flaws and issues we have seen so far. And both sides were wrong.( but not gonna write the same thing over and over though).

It's not ruined.

The Uchiha use their power to KILL others. bring down entire other clans.
yet when they lose ONE person they turn into a selfish D-Bag who acts like
they are the only ones suffering. Obitio lost ONE girl who didn't give a
**** about him, Now he wants to end the entire world. Sasuke Lost his mom
and brother, That's it and even now he wants to kill everyone for no other
reason but to make others suffer. He didn't care about what his brother gave up,
Hell even NOW his plan is the SAME as what Itachi did to his clan.

No one has pity over a selfish rich person when they lose something while the rest of the
world is suffering. "No one understands my pain" was a Line Sasuke pretty much used
Constantly! He is nothing more but a child. There is nothing to "gain" by fighting for
the clan he knew NOTHING about. The Uchiha would have killed many more when they
tried to take over the village.

So yes Sasuke is an EMO. His age,attitude and so on pretty much sums it up.
He needs to grow up and accept the world around. That's why Naruto is the
stronger character. He grew up and accepted life and is making his own way with it.
Sasuke on the other hand is the guy whos GF dumped him when he was 13 and he wont
get over it and move on.

 

[shelke]

The latest chapters just prove the senju clan to be full of butt-hurt losers and crazed political fanatics other than Hashirama, who was obviously a complete idiot and left a fickle-minded man like Tobirama to lead the nation. It doesn't prove otherwise. It also proves that the Uchiha clan are people who 'value and love' their clan unconditionally; the way it should be. Every human being doesn't move on from the loss. This base is filled with morons, apparently.

 

[MrSimple]

It's not ruined.

The Uchiha use their power to KILL others. bring down entire other clans.
yet when they lose ONE person they turn into a selfish D-Bag who acts like
they are the only ones suffering. Obitio lost ONE girl who didn't give a
**** about him, Now he wants to end the entire world. Sasuke Lost his mom
and brother, That's it and even now he wants to kill everyone for no other
reason but to make others suffer. He didn't care about what his brother gave up,
Hell even NOW his plan is the SAME as what Itachi did to his clan.

No one has pity over a selfish rich person when they lose something while the rest of the
world is suffering. "No one understands my pain" was a Line Sasuke pretty much used
Constantly! He is nothing more but a child. There is nothing to "gain" by fighting for
the clan he knew NOTHING about. The Uchiha would have killed many more when they
tried to take over the village.

This is so wrong that I don't know of where to even start. It's merely one-sided. You clearly can't understand why Konoha's people suffered for so long. U_U And of what issue.