Tobis statement means Hashirama > EMS Madara > Nagato

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Hi, tobi said that sasuke will overcome nagato. now his powerup is the EMS,

true power according to itachi. And since madara had the true power too, the ems, does it mean EMS Madara > Nagato because tobi said that sasuke will come over nagato?

Is it Hashirama > Madara/Sasuke > Nagato, since Hashirama beat EMS Madara and Sasuke is considered by tobi to be come stronger than Nagato?

Hashirama bat EMS madara though sasuke is considered to become stronger than nagato.

kabuto said that no one is on hashiramas level any more, not even mentioned nagato or tobi (he possesses most knowledge due to his tons of researches and experiments for power).


who is actually stronger by hype?

Hashirama > EMS Madara > EMS Sasuke > Nagato?
 

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Tobi is a liar
And hashi is WAAAAY stronger by hype
 

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Nagato > Hashirama > EMs madara U_U

Nagato shares the name of the sage, Tobi called him the 3rd Sage of six paths (i think it was 3rd), Sharing the name of the Sage himself >>>>>>>>>> hashirama's Hype and Madara's hype.

Nagato beats then both in hype and feats.
 

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EMS+rinnegan Madara>Hasirama>Madara EMS>Sasuke EMS>Nagato

Yes this is my opinion
 

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Hashirama > Nagato > EMS madara
imho, but we havent seen much of hashirama so :|
 

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Nagato > Hashirama > EMs madara U_U

Nagato shares the name of the sage, Tobi called him the 3rd Sage of six paths (i think it was 3rd), Sharing the name of the Sage himself >>>>>>>>>> hashirama's Hype and Madara's hype.

Nagato beats then both in hype and feats.

Without being involved to this too much, Madara lost to Hashirama though being the second sage of the six paths. Nagato shared the name with the sage 'cause he had the same eyes.

Since Rikudo Sennin combined Rinnegan, Uchiha and Senju, all Nagato, Hashirama and Madara had Rikudo Sennins strength.
 

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Without being involved to this too much, Madara lost to Hashirama though being the second sage of the six paths. Nagato shared the name with the sage 'cause he had the same eyes.

Since Rikudo Sennin combined Rinnegan, Uchiha and Senju, all Nagato, Hashirama and Madara had Rikudo Sennins strength.

He considered Madara/himself the second sage of six paths because he had rinnegan. Ems Madara wasn't the second sage of six paths.
 
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Nagato > Hashirama > EMs madara U_U

Nagato shares the name of the sage, Tobi called him the 3rd Sage of six paths (i think it was 3rd), Sharing the name of the Sage himself >>>>>>>>>> hashirama's Hype and Madara's hype.

Nagato beats then both in hype and feats.
And Madara was called the 2rd Sage of six paths.

OT: Nagato would beat EMS Madara, but not Hashirama IMO
 

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Without being involved to this too much, Madara lost to Hashirama though being the second sage of the six paths. Nagato shared the name with the sage 'cause he had the same eyes.

Since Rikudo Sennin combined Rinnegan, Uchiha and Senju, all Nagato, Hashirama and Madara had Rikudo Sennins strength.

Madara has the Sages Eye (Uchiha/sharingan)

Hashirama had the Sages Body (Senju)

Nagato has Both Sages Body and Eyes, He is an Uzumaki that are distant relatives of the Senju, Also has the Sages Eyes (rinnegan)
 

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Tobi called Nagato the 3rd Sage of 6 Paths. That beats any Hype which Hashirama received. And considering Shodaime > EMS Madara is canon, what does that say about Nagato in comparison to EMS Madara?
 

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He considered Madara/himself the second sage of six paths because he had rinnegan. Ems Madara wasn't considered the second sage of six paths.

Or because he was just the reincarnation of him.
People always come with the argument that Nagato has Rikudo Sennins eyes. Madara had also Rikudo Sennins strength - The power of the Uchiha and probably the techniques of the EMS as well. Hashirama is also Rikudo Sennins strength with the strong body, the power of Senjus and probably Mokuton. Rikudo Sennin was the inner therm of anything, he probably had all this powers. Therefore I don't accept the argument with Nagato who had Rikudo Sennins power.
 

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Hashi can beat madara ( EMS ) but not rinnengwen
 

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Or because he was just the reincarnation of him.
People always come with the argument that Nagato has Rikudo Sennins eyes. Madara had also Rikudo Sennins strength - The power of the Uchiha and probably the techniques of the EMS as well. Hashirama is also Rikudo Sennins strength with the strong body, the power of Senjus and probably Mokuton. Rikudo Sennin was the inner therm of anything, he probably had all this powers. Therefore I don't accept the argument with Nagato who had Rikudo Sennins power.

Wasn't it Madara inherited the older brothers strong mental energy and the eyes. Hashirama inherited the younger sons body and physical energy.
 

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To me it's nagato=>hashi>EMS madara> EMS sasuke

Now when madara used final form of Susanno he didn't use sharingan the rinnigan was still active now if the final form of Susanno actually belongs to EMS madara not EMS plus rinnigan madara then

Nagato>=hashi=>madara>>>>>>>>>>sasuke

Nagato is on par with both hashi and EMS madara
 

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Wasn't it Madara inherited the older brothers strong mental energy and the eyes. Hashirama inherited the younger sons body and physical energy.

Yeah what I mean. Madara had the strong eyes, the spiritual energy and the strong chakra.

Hashirama the strong body, the will and the physical energy. All these things were Rikudo Sennins powers, I guess he not only used the Rinnegan but also the EMS, Mokuton and anything else as the inner therm of anything.

Nagato, Madara and Hashirama are about the same level I guess, all of them represent Rikudo Sennins power.
 

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To bad Tobi never said that
 
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