tobi's six paths vs madara and hashirama

[Truemadara]

Tobi would not beat the 1st or madara period...this is pointless

 

[TobisPawn]

And no one, other than Minato and Konan, has been shown to be able to counter Tobi's S/T techs.

Minato countered it with FTG + Rasengan..
Konan.. Tobi used IZANAGI not his S/T jutsu dude get a life..

- Madara can't teleport himself, but without teleports he's faster then minato.
- Madara has rinnegan also which allows him to use Shinra tensei also.. So don't give me those bleaks Tenseis and Paths of Tobis.. Madara has Rinnegan which means he can use those too inlucding Susanoo and Amaterasu along with Tsukuyomi..

-Minato was only able to beat Tobi's S/T by teleporting. Madara can't teleport. And wtf? Base Minato speed>>Base Madara speed.

-I know Madara has the Rinnegan too. That's why the fight would be extremely intense. But Tobi can constantly go Intangible to avoid attacks when needed.

And as I said,
-6 Bijuus > Susanoo.
-Amaterasu has no effect on Tobi
-Tobi has genjutsu just as strong, if not stronger than Tsukuyomi.


Yeah, Tobi used Izanagi against Konan. But Madara won't be able to put Tobi into a situation to force him to use Izanagi.


And for all we know, Tobi has Motukon too. He has mastered Hashirama's DNA perfectly.

 

[MrLukyso]

-Fine, Motukon > 6 Bijuus. But Tobi would have an easy opportunity to rip apart Madara while he's occupied by the incoming Bijuu Damas.
-He survived Amaterasu once without a scratch, he can do it again.
-Tsukuyomi might work on Tobi, but Tobi has his own powerful arsenal of genjutsu. I doubt either of them would try using genjutsu on eachother.
-Tobi's S/T techs allow him to go intangible. He can use either his S/T OR the Rinnegan to evade Motukon. All he needs to do is warp through Motukon, and get near Madara. Then he can use his Rinnegan techs on him. And Madara would still be preoccupied with the 6 bijuus.
-Gedo Mazo isn't that weak. Its easily twice as big as a Susanoo, and with Tobi it has the chakra of 7 bijuus in it. Saying that Motukon + Susanoo would rip it to shreds is in assumption.


While Madara would be busy using Motukon to take care of 6 bijuus at once, Tobi would have many chances to beat him with Gedo Mazo, his Rinnegan, or his S/T techs.




And no, I was just stating that current Tobi without his bijuus would be able to beat current Madara without Kurama. And I'm sure Tobi would be able to capture the jinchuuriki himself. But why waste time?




By the way, I still think Madara is second strongest only behind to Tobi. I don't think he's weak at all. None of us are going to give up here, let's just let each other have our opinions xd

I gotta agree about the not giving up with but I will surely not give up why ?

Okay I admit Tobi with All the bijuus and Madara without Kurama.. Tobi MIGHT pull this off somehow, but Tobi without bijuus.. He wouldn't know who hits him dude.. Just admit it I know you know that allready.. Tobi doesn't have any power at all without bijuus and bijuu damas..
Plus you're saying everything to slow madara down ? You mean you mad bro?
Bicouse madara wouldn't waste alot of time to block those damas.. He would just absorb them with Rinnegan ability, and try to use Mokuton on tobi itself, because against rinnegan, bijuu dama is usseles.. And yes Gedo Mazo is not that weak but dude.. Mokuton would broke it appart, if it was able to defeat kurama, it will be able to break through gedo mazo easily.. Even without mokuton its not so hard to defeat gedo mazo which doesn't has bijuus..

STILL.

MADARA >TOBI
Why ? Because Madara earned his way to Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan, He earned his way To Rinnegan, he earned his way to title "legend".. But Tobi? what he did ? He was just only siting in the cave pretending to be a Madara, while Akatsuki was gathering the power to him.. Without that power akatsuki GAVE him hes weak.. Admit it.

But in Overal Tobi is not weak I admit it.

-Minato was only able to beat Tobi's S/T by teleporting. Madara can't teleport. And wtf? Base Minato speed>>Base Madara speed.

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-I know Madara has the Rinnegan too. That's why the fight would be extremely intense. But Tobi can constantly go Intangible to avoid attacks when needed.

What in the world ?

And as I said,
-6 Bijuus > Susanoo.
Bijuus is not tobis power, thats akatsukis )
-Amaterasu has no effect on Tobi
It has tobi won't be able to seal Amaterasu in the battle against Madara.
-Tobi has genjutsu just as strong, if not stronger than Tsukuyomi.
And what it might be ?

Yeah, Tobi used Izanagi against Konan. But Madara won't be able to put Tobi into a situation to force him to use Izanagi.

Madara can use Izanagi too perfectly, and I dont think Tobi will force madara to use Izanagi too.

And for all we know, Tobi has Motukon too. He has mastered Hashirama's DNA perfectly.

Tobi hasn't got Mokuton, I bet my fingers on that dude.. Who idea was that seriously ?

 

[TobisPawn]

I gotta agree about the not giving up with but I will surely not give up why ?

Okay I admit Tobi with All the bijuus and Madara without Kurama.. Tobi MIGHT pull this off somehow, but Tobi without bijuus.. He wouldn't know who hits him dude.. Just admit it I know you know that allready.. Tobi doesn't have any power at all without bijuus and bijuu damas..
Plus you're saying everything to slow madara down ? You mean you mad bro?
Bicouse madara wouldn't waste alot of time to block those damas.. He would just absorb them with Rinnegan ability, and try to use Mokuton on tobi itself, because against rinnegan, bijuu dama is usseles.. And yes Gedo Mazo is not that weak but dude.. Mokuton would broke it appart, if it was able to defeat kurama, it will be able to break through gedo mazo easily.. Even without mokuton its not so hard to defeat gedo mazo which doesn't has bijuus..

STILL.

MADARA >TOBI
Why ? Because Madara earned his way to Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan, He earned his way To Rinnegan, he earned his way to title "legend".. But Tobi? what he did ? He was just only siting in the cave pretending to be a Madara, while Akatsuki was gathering the power to him.. Without that power akatsuki GAVE him hes weak.. Admit it.

But in Overal Tobi is not weak I admit it.

At the bolded: Are you telling me that the Rinnegan, Sharingan, and S/T teleportation + Intangibility surpassing Minato's is nothing? Even without the bijuus, Tobi is extremely powerful, as you're about to see in his fight with Naruto.

Its obvious that Tobi hasn't shown the extent of his powers.


And when/if Madara defeats Tobi's bijuus, Tobi can suck them back into Gedo Mazo. Gedo Mazo aided by 7 bijuu's chakra is extremely strong, don't underestimate it.

You're assuming Gedo Mazo, a Rinnegan summon, is weak. :flaw:

Gedo Mazo can just rip out Madara's soul, if anything


Tobi earned his S/T techs. He earned his Rinnegan (he had it before). And he manipulated the entire Akatsuki, that means he's smart. And he'd only apply those smarts in a fight with Madara, someone who normally uses brute force to overpower. Brute force won't work on Tobi.





@Your panel:

Minato saved baby Naruto just as fast, if not faster. And Tobi has some sort of Senju related powers, that's for sure.






And if things ever come to it, Tobi can use his perfect Izanagi to beat Madara

 

[Truemadara]

6 wood clones to one on one anll bijuus and one more wood clone to fight tobi cuz madara dnt feel like wasting his time

 

[MrLukyso]

6 wood clones to one on one anll bijuus and one more wood clone to fight tobi cuz madara dnt feel like wasting his time

SEEMS LEGIT.

TobisPawn.. He didn't earned anything, HE DIDNT BORN WITH RINNEGAN thats for sure and that proves that Rinnegan is not his own power again.. He's just getting other people skills and abilities nothing more. Because if the rinnegan were his he would be able to switch it with sharingan which would leave him with 2 Rinnegans in both eyes, but since he can't control it he has to give 1 eye for that 1 for that ) Like Meteor wouldn't crush gedo mazo lol, and don't tell me madara WOULD die too.. He would use mokuton to save hims self, he would use susanoo to save him self, he would cast that jutsu only when the times right and he's not in range of meteor, he could just cast small ones to block bijuus any of this shit.. DUDE We will see whos more superior in upcoming manga ) PEACE.

 

[MrLukyso]

And I bet his S/T jutsus were copied from Tobirama, just that Tobi perfected it more like Orochimaru did with Edo tensei

 

[BloodSeed]

how can madara hits tobi?

 

[MrLukyso]

Get out of here troll.. Seriously.. That was serious tobi vs madara we had .

 

[TobisPawn]

SEEMS LEGIT.

TobisPawn.. He didn't earned anything, HE DIDNT BORN WITH RINNEGAN thats for sure and that proves that Rinnegan is not his own power again.. He's just getting other people skills and abilities nothing more. Because if the rinnegan were his he would be able to switch it with sharingan which would leave him with 2 Rinnegans in both eyes, but since he can't control it he has to give 1 eye for that 1 for that ) Like Meteor wouldn't crush gedo mazo lol, and don't tell me madara WOULD die too.. He would use mokuton to save hims self, he would use susanoo to save him self, he would cast that jutsu only when the times right and he's not in range of meteor, he could just cast small ones to block bijuus any of this shit.. DUDE We will see whos more superior in upcoming manga ) PEACE.

Again, it seems that Tobi did attain the Rinnegan himself at one point. But he gave them to Nagato, and now he took them back.

Tobi can go intangible through Madara's meteors that would kill Madara himself too.

Tobi's bijuus would give Susanoo an extremely hard time. Same with Gedo Mazo.

While Madara's busy with the bijuus, Tobi can take him out.


Well, cya. It was nice debating with you. xd

And I bet his S/T jutsus were copied from Tobirama, just that Tobi perfected it more like Orochimaru did with Edo tensei

Naaaaah

 

[MorphyRulez]

If he is using bujiis he cant use Paths... SO Tobi get shit.

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