tobi's real idenitity (a theory)

who is it?

  • kagami

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • clone of madara either way of zetsu or justu

    Votes: 9 56.3%
  • shisui

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • obito

    Votes: 5 31.3%
  • tobirama (i know some of you will)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 10 tails (impossible)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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izinagi54

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ok as we all know. tobi has been hotly debated to be obito, the 10 tails itself, and even tobirama.
the above are not feasible because of the three things here

obito was crushed by a boulder so status officially KIA

tobirama killed twice once in action and the other sealed by the thrid hokage so Status SEALED

the all mighty juubi. i could see why people have thought of him being tobi and who knows maybe. But for the sake of my argument this is also very unlikely because
A the bijuu are not conjoined
B he (tobi) has said repeatly he needs to "recreate" the juubi and seal it in himself
C its not even able to do that because think about if the 10 tails is the combination of all 9 bijuu and thats its chakra.

the 4 people most suited to be the infamous tobi

kagami uchiha: he is a likely canidate if tobi is as old and is telling the truth of him being a uchiha. his motive could be seeing his master tobirama being killed by the cloud nin. this would set off a chain of events that would cause him to hate the world for the way it has become. this could also explain why he knows so much about the uchiha clan and how he would know about the so6p because his master was a brother to the most powerful of all hokage harishima senju. he could've had knowledge on the uzumaki's sealing jutsu because of mito uzumaki. thats it for the personality. now onto physical appreances. tobi and him share a lot of physical appreances such as height, weight, and even hair style. this could very well mean the kagami uchiha is tobi

madara or zetsu clone: he stated before his death that he awakened the rinnegan and the ability that is infamous to this is the creation of all things technique weither if he had this or not is unkown. however if he did he could have created tobi to follow up his plans and this could be how he and tobi know eachother. infact the current tobi has the same arrogant power hungry atitude as madara had before his death. this could work in conjuction to zetsu but this does not make since if madara if madara does not know zetsu how could he even be able to order him to make a clone. so if anything madara right before he died used the creation of all things technique to create a copy of him self tobi. this also explains his age

shisui: this would actually explain tobi's genjutsu abilities and poweress. because to date tobi's and shisui genjutsu is by far the most powerful except for izanagi and izanami. anyway it is said the KA is able to control someone without said individual knowing so. yagura who was a perfect jinchuriki was controlled by tobi and his tailed beast knew some powerful genjutsu and even then was not able to stop tobi's. he might even done this to sasuke because lets face it he took one hell of nose dive when he was with him. this explains how he and itachi know eachother so well. but this does not explain the age. but this explains tobi's collection of sharingan and even the need for differnt ones. also look at his rinnegan in the manga that one eye is where his other eye was taken out so this explains alot also. his mangekyou may just look like a normal sharingan (yes i know i said this and it could be true who said that the mangekyou needs to look differnt from the 3 tomeo sharingan). this could also explain how he could know when kushina was giving birth he could have KA someone and found out that way. most likely kushina's friend and sasuke's mother. but the other reason why the uchiha were they ordered to step down by their leader. who might have been controlled at the time as well.

with this conclusion i say that kagami is the main person in this little situation. his looks and personality fit it (his now personality)

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Unlikely to be Shisui for two reasons:

One; Danzo took one eye and Itachi got the other

Two; Itachi killed him and dumped his body in the river which was found by the Uchiha police force


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I know people hate the Obito theory, despite the fact that Obito shares many of the letters found in Tobi (Obit) but that probably means nothing in Japanese. Then theres the hair style, the age could be about right and the fact that for the longest time he only showed one eye (dont mention the other revealed during the Konan fight as he has hundreds in jars) on the side that was crushed by the boulder. No if you ignore all of these theres one more thing, he refuses to fight Kakashi even going so far as to say "dont bother, that jutsu wont work on me" why bother? perhaps he wants to harvest it but perhaps he doesnt want his old friend wasting the eye he gave him. Theres also a theory that zetsu saved him but with his remaining Sharingan he could have easily teleported or phased out. The age range for the 9 tails attack is also in the right ball park.

Im still out on Tobi's identity but i wont let go of the possibility that it could be Obito lol
 
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Unlikely to be Shisui for two reasons:

One; Danzo took one eye and Itachi got the other

Two; Itachi killed him and dumped his body in the river which was found by the Uchiha police force

i did him on the off chance
 

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i go for zetsu clone U_U
 

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I wish it would be the elder son of the so6p would make it soooooooooo much more interesting and epic
 

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i mean anything that comes to mind speak it out i love feed back so i can better myself on these
 

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i like the tobi is obito theory
 

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Anythings possible i hope kishi makes this interesting not something obvious like Izuna

i did consider him but i think its very unlikely because why show him in a coffin if he is not dead......... holly crap i just thought of vampires lololol

LegendaryAce;6676 551 said:
I wish it would be the elder son of the so6p would make it soooooooooo much more interesting and epic

i agree
but how old would this guy freakin be i know a 150 is still cutting it short my god
 

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We never actually saw Obito die. He was immobilized by the boulder and told Kakashi and Rin to run as the rest caved in. There wasn't any footage of his last breath, so we don't know for sure. There is the possibility that Zetsu saved him and healed him. What caused him to pretend to be Madara Uchiha is still unknown.
 

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I don't know the real identity of Tobi , BUT I know that Masashi knows it.

And because of this just F******* wait and you will know it and stop to do useless threads FOR REAL BRO !!!
 

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I think I found the information on who Tobi is from a person, but I do not think I should say it because it seems too true to me. It might be leaked information. But what I read was epic, and it explains so much. At the most, I would tell one reliable person, or show them where I found it.

Please do share the info :O
 

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all good points chris! but i have to stick to my theory on this.. his a combination of both hashirama and madara.
here a reference to back it up a little.
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why can't it bee shisui i mean he is never showed killed but like a said in a previous post. it is very unlikely.
but these are the stupidest theories people came up with

10 tails (need all the bijuu)
obito (he is dead crushed it shows him crushed how in hell is he still alive when he died)
tobirama (he is sealed)
harishima (how and why would he want to kill the leaf the very village he founded)

someothers that i found intresting (in the good way)

sasuke's father
izuna
madara son or dad
a orochimaru experiment ( found this funny)
 
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