Tobis physical object phasing and orochimaru

[twistedlink]

Okay so in the latest chapter we found out that tobi can "slip into physical matter" but its not new.

Zetsu does it, and so does orochimaru in the chuunin exam, he withdraws into trees and stuff, and that wasnt genjutsu from my knowledge.

I'm just wondering what makes tobis going through objects so amazing when other ninja have done it?

 

[Steinbiz]

Okay so in the latest chapter we found out that tobi can "slip into physical matter" but its not new.

Zetsu does it, and so does orochimaru in the chuunin exam, he withdraws into trees and stuff, and that wasnt genjutsu from my knowledge.

I'm just wondering what makes tobis going through objects so amazing when other ninja have done it?

Hmm, the only thing I can think of that makes them different is that maybe Madara's way of doing it is a form of just slipping through the object as seen. But when someone like Orochimaru seeps into the ground, he usually does this in order to make a retreat of some sort. So maybe Orochimaru's way of doing it is like a teleportation trick. Once he's morphed himself into the ground, maybe he uses a sort of earth style teleportation.

But this is just what I think. It could be the exact same thing as Madara's.

 

[Dtoxxdasavvyone]

From what i've seen Orochimaru was only able to go through the florrs of shit whether it be wood, grass, or whatever. Tobi on the other hand switches dimensions and seems to be able to make individual parts of his body re and dematerialize at will with little to no effort. Look at how he dissapeared into thin air lke he climbed through a time strm or something. No one has yet to use a justu that sick yet his justus is exclusive otherwise other ninja like Kakashi who has seen various styles of this justu would have been able to detect what it is and how it works. Madara justu is almost like a Kekkei Genkai for lack of a better word as no one has this particular jutsu, the man suck people into time continuems and leaves thier ass there. Tell me who else can do that to the extent that Madara can his justu is amazing to say the least but so far he can only do that justu hence the fact that Madara went to fetch Sasuke out of one his dimensions to fight Danzo.

Zetsu uses some type of earth style as seen in the anime he was not able to keep up with the speed of Madara's space travel no jutsu or whatever they're not even close to the same style justu no comparison sorry buddy! I don't see how you catergorize a justu with others and their abilities are clearly different with Madara having the more efficient Justu out of the other two no questions.

 

[Vergil..]

Okay so in the latest chapter we found out that tobi can "slip into physical matter" but its not new.

Zetsu does it, and so does orochimaru in the chuunin exam, he withdraws into trees and stuff, and that wasnt genjutsu from my knowledge.

I'm just wondering what makes tobis going through objects so amazing when other ninja have done it?

because other ninjas use elemental jutsu to do it while Madara uses a time/space jutsu to do so, now here's the catch , minato namikaze u was the best time/space user needed seals to teleport to another place he had to go from point A to point B or C or D but never in between so he simple disappears from point A to another dimension and reappears on point B.

While Madara can go to anywhere from anywhere and he can also exist between both the normal dimension and the other one so he can appear to be there but actually he isnt anywhere so he can phase stuff while being an image