Tobi's Jutsu and Kamui, are they like EMS and MS?

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Or is Kakashi's jutsu at that level because he is not an Uchiha?

Tobi's jutsu is clearly the perfected version of the same jutsu as we now know that Tobi stole Obito's eye that night during the last world war. He was able to use Obito's Sharingan as if it were his own, maybe even better than Obito.

Is this difference between the two jutsu the same as EMS and MS?


Comparing what we know about them, I certainly think its possible. I shouldnt even have to evaluate, you all know how much value that eye has for Tobi, it is his bread and butter, and you know how much damage he has already caused with that one jutsu, it makes him ALMOST invincible!

My question is, why such a vast distance between the same eyes? Granted Kakashi is not an Uchiha, not having an Uchiha body should only have an impact on his stamina, not the jutsu itself.

If you ask me I think this difference between the two is the same as one between the Imperfect and Perfect Susanoo. To be precise I believe Kakashi's jutsu is the MS version and Tobi's is the EMS version.
 

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No, it's more like they have two different halves of the same Kamui technique. For some reason though Tobi can spam his without any side effects.
 

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Like he said ^ they are just different halves of one jutsu connected through their Sharingan eye technique.
 

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they're connected one eye is for offense which is the one kakashi has that can send things into another dimension while the other one is used for defense which tobi has and can send himself and body parts to the other dimension.
 
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No, it's more like they have two different halves of the same Kamui technique. For some reason though Tobi can spam his without any side effects.

how can there be two different sides to the same jutsu? its clearly an updated version. the only reason they are linked is because the eyes are a pair.
 

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No, it's more like they have two different halves of the same Kamui technique. For some reason though Tobi can spam his without any side effects.

Precisely. Like Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu are two halves of Susanoo
 

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No, it's more like they have two different halves of the same Kamui technique. For some reason though Tobi can spam his without any side effects.

I think they are two related techniques and the reason Kakashi can't spam is he isn't Uchiha and while he is very skilled, lacks massive chakra supply. I think Tobi is likely an Uchiha, while I DO NOT think he is Tobi, he probably has the benefit of being in the bloodline meant to use Sharingan Techs.
 

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Is it possible that the reason he can't spam is that his attack is offensive and requires more skill?
 

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how can there be two different sides to the same jutsu? its clearly an updated version. the only reason they are linked is because the eyes are a pair.

I think my explanation makes more sense. If it's clearly an "updated version" as you say why can't Tobi sends things to another dimension by eye sight like Kakashi?
 

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Tobi's jutsu is spammable, and Kakashi's jutsu is ranged.
 

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I think my explanation makes more sense. If it's clearly an "updated version" as you say why can't Tobi sends things to another dimension by eye sight like Kakashi?

because.......... instead of aiming a small void in space which doesnt even do major damage and cant send physical objects bigger than a pencil, Tobi can move in and out of space at will and all he has to do to defeat someone is make contact and swallow their whole being in a split second, in case of an average opponent he doesnt even have to make contact at all and just has to be near them. its a big trade up from kamui but its still the same eye. what other explanation is there?
 

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KAKASHI ms kamui , tobi is regular sharingan from obito, hes an uchiha
 

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Tobi's jutsu is spammable, and Kakashi's jutsu is ranged.
And your point is??
Is it possible that the reason he can't spam is that his attack is offensive and requires more skill?
That is the dumbest reason ive ever heard so NO!
Like he said ^ they are just different halves of one jutsu connected through their Sharingan eye technique.
You know I am willing to bet money that neither you or that person know what that means! "different halves of the same jutsu"? that makes no F'ing sense, they share the same dimension because their eyes are a pair, they used to belong to the same person, Obito. apart from that dimension, they are two completely different jutsu.
KAKASHI ms kamui , tobi is regular sharingan from obito, hes an uchiha

so tobi is using space time techniques stronger than the 4th's with a regular sharingan? why dont you think before you type?
 

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Good question xd
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But I think Tobi has an MS technique
Like others have said , one eye has different techniques (Tsukuyomi for example and the other is for Amaterasu which then creates Susanoo)
But instead Tobi has his Intangibility and Kakashi has Kamui , I wonder what those two would create ? xd
Anyway, yeah I don't think Tobi has EMS or else you'd wonder why he didn't form his own rinnegan ? :shrug:
 

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because.......... instead of aiming a small void in space which doesnt even do major damage and cant send physical objects bigger than a pencil, Tobi can move in and out of space at will and all he has to do to defeat someone is make contact and swallow their whole being in a split second, in case of an average opponent he doesnt even have to make contact at all and just has to be near them. its a big trade up from kamui but its still the same eye. what other explanation is there?

i agree with you but kakashi can definitely send things bigger than a pencil. As seen when he sent deidara's entire arm, tried to send the incomplete juubi's neck.( ) Obviously Tobi is using a the same technique at a much higher level, being able to use it on himself as well as others.
 
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