Tobi's Identity Mishap

[Revengedace]

LOL im into my 3rd week of school atm, you guys start pretty late

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

It seems Valor is actually Wisdom.

lol thanks *_*

Anyways people shouldn't deny the obvious like Rikūdo=Uzumaki which is the new Tobi=Obito, to deny it is simply a repetition of past mistakes.

 

[Murasame]

Well Tobi fought Minato and was 174 cm [his final height] whereas Kakashi and Guy wasn't near his final height[181 cm and 184 cm resp.] also Tobi had the voice of much older man.

Kishi also deliberately made Tobi of same height and weight as Izuna so it'd throw everyone off course, Kishi also showed that Tobi had another eye [Izanagi] and his connections with Nagato [same age as Minato according to manga time like]Danzou and Orochimaru were ambiguous. All in all the age [and his knowledge] didn't fit and that's why everyone thought it wasn't Obito.

Wasn't Obito around 18 years old? I mean he was older than Kakashi after all. Itachi when he massacred the clan was still in his teen years and still had the same voice he did as an adult.

I'm not sure about the rest of your post though.

 

[Senju Bean]

I think it's largely due to many people finding Obito uncool, so much so that they just can't accept Tobi being him. Although I do agree, he is the most obvious choice.

 

[Nous]

Many reason.

1. Fighting on par with Minato and him not recognizing his former student.
2. Possessing 2 Sharingan.
3. Knowledge that predates Obito's birth-date.
4. Very masculine voice for a 16-year old [Anime].
5. He got crushed.. by a boulder..
6. Limited understanding of potential reasoning's for Obito's change.
7. Way too obvious

This is why people questioned Obito being Tobi. I always believed he was Obito.. well since we learned Tobi wasn't Madara at least as it made the most sense and Obito would have been the most relevant one unless Shisui/Kagami/Izuna were Obito's relatives but it still wouldn't be as relevant as Obito himself.


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[K1domaru]

Yeah.I wanted it to be Izuna so bad! But reality is different.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

Because we did not expect someone to have survived after being crushed in half.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

In hind-sight, it may have been obvious. However, people, myself included, wanted to believe Tobi was someone powerful and badass, such as Izuna. We didn't want him to be some kid that got killed by a rock.

 

[Young Vongola]

Since it was so damn obvious, nobody wanted to believe it. It seemed like a trick to most people, and I was one of the people who over analyzed Tobi's identity.

 

[Ovan]

Kishi was sly with keeping Madara and Obito alive. -3-

 

[Gyakusetsu]

Laughing at the irony of this thread. If we learned anything we learned that Kishimoto can write events after the fact to fit the evidence. Be cautious with assumptions because they make an ass out of you and some guy named Mptions.

 

[Xāvî1]

It could have easily been anyone :| Kishi just likes to f**k with our minds

Thats the real reason

 

[Netferarri]

Lol because it was too easy. I wanted it to be some one like a character we heard about one time but heard he is legendary.

 

[DeMaggio]

As we are fast approaching the first year anniversary of Tobi's reveal, I would like to point out something: Tobi being Obito was obvious from the start: one-eyed mask, appearing after Kakashi Gaiden, rearranging the letters of Tobi's name and adding an "o" making it Obito, Kamui power like Kakashi's MS which belonged to Obito, artificial half body (the side which got crushed by the boulder) etc. it was so obvious but why did others speculate Tobi to be Izuna, Shisui, Kagami or Sasuke from the future? It was so obvious that he was Obito from the start.

Because it was just to obvious and straight forward. People were looking for a plot twist and interesting possibilities. When it finally was revealed people were disappointed. I mean it was just to obvious it all tricked us even though I KNEW 100% it was Obito.

 

[Multiply]

I thought it was pretty obvious. :|

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

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I believed he was Obito up until this point. I like Kishi, I like the way he writes, I like the story, so don't misunderstand this next statement. These two pages were so unnecessarily misleading that it borders on cruel.

Obito: "Do you have ANY idea how long.." when in reality it was between 1-2 years. This statement was purposefully put out there by the writer to make us think that all of Tobi's knowledge came from personal experience (age, wisdom, etc.). It made us think that this was a man who had been waiting countless years to arrive at this single moment. Like it was the most important thing in the world to him...like he was say, actually Madara. If Kishi knew Tobi was going to be Obito at this point, then this statement was a complete ass-pull...sorry, that's just how it is.

I've heard the argument that, "Well imagine waiting a year after what Obito went through...that would seem like a long time." First of all, no, it still wouldn't justify the statement in the context we see it. The scope of this story connects the past to the present over a century (even further if you count the Sage and Juubi). "Do you have ANY idea how long..." in the context of this story would have to be longer than a year...the statement is just a hyperbole, plain and simple. Especially coupled with the Kyuubi's next statement.

"You...!" This indicated the Kyuubi recognized Tobi. And the only way that's possible is if Tobi were very old due to the fact the Kyuubi had been sealed in Kushina and Mito over the last 70 years +.

So this chapter by itself makes the Obito reveal a bit ridiculous. I actually liked that fact it was Obito, I always thought it would add more to the story than Izuna or any other of the candidates. But, if it were going to be Obito, then the statements I've shown were almost "unfair", if you will, to the reader..

 

[Senju Bean]

@Tebow, I think it was very obvious after the 6th coffin reveal. Who else relevant to the plot could be Tobi? Sure isn't Izuna since he isn't even a secondary character. Maybe Derp was referring to the period of speculation after the Coffin reveal.

Before the Coffin reveal, there were way too many things pointing to Tobi being Madara. Kisime seeing Tobi without his mask and calling Tobi Madara, Kabuto referring to Tobi as Madara even when no one was around, Tobi telling Kabuto that the mindless Hashi clone was cultivated from his battle at VOTE. etc

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

@Tebow, I think it was very obvious after the 6th coffin reveal. Who else relevant to the plot could be Tobi? Sure isn't Izuna since he isn't even a secondary character. Maybe Derp was referring to the period of speculation after the Coffin reveal.

Before the Coffin reveal, there were way too many things pointing to Tobi being Madara. Kisime seeing Tobi without his mask and calling Tobi Madara, Kabuto referring to Tobi as Madara even when no one was around, Tobi telling Kabuto that the mindless Hashi clone was cultivated from his battle at VOTE. etc

Right, exactly. That is what bothers me. The reveal of Tobi almost felt like a, "Okay, I'll make him Obito, and then fill in the spaces later...I guess the readers will just have to overlook some stuff." And again, I liked it was Obito, I really do think he was the best choice. But what I don't like was the way he went about trying to make us think it was actually Madara. Let Tobi say over and over, "I'm Madara!" Put plot devices in there that would help the reader arrive at the conclusion Tobi=Madara on their own. But when have things like we both mentioned. It really almost seems like lack of effort or too much effort resulting from an over obsession with getting the reader to believe what Kishi wanted us to believe...

 

[Senju Bean]

Right, exactly. That is what bothers me. The reveal of Tobi almost felt like a, "Okay, I'll make him Obito, and then fill in the spaces later...I guess the readers will just have to overlook some stuff." And again, I liked it was Obito, I really do think he was the best choice. But what I don't like was the way he went about trying to make us think it was actually Madara. Let Tobi say over and over, "I'm Madara!" Put plot devices in there that would help the reader arrive at the conclusion Tobi=Madara on their own. But when have things like we both mentioned. It really almost seems like lack of effort or too much effort resulting from an over obsession with getting the reader to believe what Kishi wanted us to believe...

My personal theory is that Kishi originally intended Madara to the Tobi and simply used the Obito hints to mislead. Eventually he realized that Obito is a better choice to be Tobi since Obito actually had very similar backgrounds, hence fitting the theme better. Well BreakBad is on lol.

 

[Sherlock.]

I started Naruto after his identity was revealed.... So I kind of knew it from the start.... =D =D