Tobiramas techniques has saved the Shinobi alliance!

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with Zetsu fodders and no Madara XD

The truth is Madara was a distraction to Obito's plan, he clearly never wanted to revive Madara and was surprised when Kabuto offered him as a token of friendship.
He was prepared to start a war on his own, and become the juubi jin as soon as possible, which was almost foiled by Madara, had he known that the sign for Rinne tensei was different from what Obito was doing.

Dude Madara would have been killed if it wasnt for Edo Tensei..

Madara was never needed by Obito in the first place, Obito becoming the Juubi jin was all he had planed, so clearly Madara's revival was a detour for him.
 

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that's an impossibility mostly because
Tobirama's FTG < Minato's FTG
Tobirama's Edo Tensei < Orochimaru's Edo Tensei < Kabuto's Edo Tensei
Tobirama's soloing skills < Itachi's soloing skills
 

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He was responsible for resurrecting madara if youthink about it with your logic.
 

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He was responsible for resurrecting madara if youthink about it with your logic.

Read my previous post.

that's an impossibility mostly because
Tobirama's FTG < Minato's FTG
Tobirama's Edo Tensei < Orochimaru's Edo Tensei < Kabuto's Edo Tensei
Tobirama's soloing skills < Itachi's soloing skills
Read the OP, without tobirama none of those characters would have flourished.
 

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The truth is Madara was a distraction to Obito's plan, he clearly never wanted to revive Madara and was surprised when Kabuto offered him as a token of friendship.
He was prepared to start a war on his own, and become the juubi jin as soon as possible, which was almost foiled by Madara, had he known that the sign for Rinne tensei was different from what Obito was doing.



Madara was never needed by Obito in the first place, Obito becoming the Juubi jin was all he had planed, so clearly Madara's revival was a detour for him.

But Obito would not have survived so long had it not been the edos and Madara
 

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U guy's are forgoting smthng ...If there is no FTG,Tobirama would have died during the fight with Izuna ,If there is no Tobirama then there is no reason for Madara to leave village...

So No Hashirama vs Madara at VOTE

No Old Madara

No War ....

Madara would be first Hokage and he would have took control over all villages and there is no wars in Naruto....+


The truth is Madara was a distraction to Obito's plan, he clearly never wanted to revive Madara and was surprised when Kabuto offered him as a token of friendship.
He was prepared to start a war on his own, and become the juubi jin as soon as possible, which was almost foiled by Madara, had he known that the sign for Rinne tensei was different from what Obito was doing.



Madara was never needed by Obito in the first place, Obito becoming the Juubi jin was all he had planed, so clearly Madara's revival was a detour for him.

IF there is no Madara the five kage along with Naruto ,Kakashi,Bee and Gai would have Killed Obito ages ago.....
 
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If none of those techs existed, I doubt they'd be in so much trouble.
 

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Remember, Obito declared the fourth great ninja war with confidence, even without expecting the involvement of Edo zombies including Madara. So he didn't need anybody's help.

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But Obito would not have survived so long had it not been the edos and Madara

He was doing fine with the whole time, even without Madaras help. Besides he doesn't need to confront all of them at the same time. He could just teleport somewhere else, wait for the Juubi to finish transforming then come back to be the Juubi jin. Madara was really not needed.

U guy's are forgoting smthng ...If there is no Tobirama there is no reason for Madara to leave village...

So No Hashirama vs Madara at VOTE

No Old Madara

No War ....

Madara would be first Hokage and he would have took control over all villages and there is no wars in Naruto....+




IF there is no Madara the five kage along with Naruto ,Kakashi,Bee and Gai would have Killed Obito ages ago.....

Someone who's unreasonable like Madara would go evil even without Tobirama, if things don't go according to his way. That's just how immature Uchihas are, they can't handle logical people like Tobirama. Blaming others for your demise instead of ones own shortcomings is his undoing.

If none of those techs existed, I doubt they'd be in so much trouble.

Oh but there is no way for them to escape being trapped in the 6 red suns barriers with 4 biju bombs coming from all four directions.
 
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Someone who's unreasonable like Madara would go evil even without Tobirama, if things don't go according to his way. That's just how immature Uchihas are, they can't handle logical people like Tobirama. Blaming others for your demise instead of ones own shortcomings is his undoing.

U r right but if there is Tobirama no one argue against Hashirama or Madara so there is no need to worry abt that, Madara would be second Hokage even if they choose Hashi as first .....
 

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1. Edo Tensei: There would be no 4 Hokages fighting along side the alliance, also means no FTG.

2. Shadow clone: Naruto wouldn't have come up with a solution to save the alliance from the the 4 biju bombs + barrier.

3. FTG: Minato wouldn't be Yellowflash without it, and it's half of the reason why naruto's plan last chapter worked.

Yes people have improved upon these techniques, but to actually invent new techniques without a reference is harder than improving an already existing jutsu. Without Tobirama being born or inventing these techniques everyone would have died last chapter already. :whip:

thats true but he didnt do a sh!t. those three techniques were mastered to a different level by three different people
 

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Would not be a real war if Tobirama would have kept his Edo Tensei secret.
Tobirama making the shadow clone jutsu did do wonders for Naruto since he can't go through a whole fight without using it.
Itachi also did a great part in the war by sending most of the edo's home..

But yeah. He did some bad that lead to some good.
 

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thats true but he didnt do a sh!t. those three techniques were mastered to a different level by three different people

ya but he invented them so whats ur point?

If none of those techs existed, I doubt they'd be in so much trouble.

U guy's are forgoting smthng ...If there is no FTG,Tobirama would have died during the fight with Izuna ,If there is no Tobirama then there is no reason for Madara to leave village...

So No Hashirama vs Madara at VOTE

No Old Madara

No War ....

Madara would be first Hokage and he would have took control over all villages and there is no wars in Naruto....+




IF there is no Madara the five kage along with Naruto ,Kakashi,Bee and Gai would have Killed Obito ages ago.....

no Obito is still too difficult to kill.

1. Edo Tensei: There would be no 4 Hokages fighting along side the alliance, also means no FTG.

2. Shadow clone: Naruto wouldn't have come up with a solution to save the alliance from the the 4 biju bombs + barrier.

3. FTG: Minato wouldn't be Yellowflash without it, and it's half of the reason why naruto's plan last chapter worked.

Yes people have improved upon these techniques, but to actually invent new techniques without a reference is harder than improving an already existing jutsu. Without Tobirama being born or inventing these techniques everyone would have died last chapter already. :whip:

ya u r right!

and without the invention of Edo Tensei thwre wouldnt have been any war

still tobi declared it!

Edo tensei is the reason Why many people get f@cked during war.

Not even impressed with the wank.

other than that what else troubles you?

Dude Madara would have been killed if it wasnt for Edo Tensei..

no Madara would still easily finish the 5 kages and would be serious! he woildnt take risks fro granted and would finish them off easily!
 

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These are all true statements, Tobirama is a baws
 
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