Tobirama's Clones

[Tobby17]

So there was a thread posted by someone, trying to prove that Tobirama is actually weak and only capable of producing two Clones.. So i thought i'd post what i saw somewhere else. But first i'd like to point out that the Kages are limited because they are using up chakra to hold up the barrier. Regardless:

1. Tobirama is the only shinobi on the battlefield without haxxed ass OP power ups.
2. The Kage are all creating KAGEbushins, which takes 50% of your power for EACH ONE created
3. The Kage are all maintaining a barrier jutsu that is said to be so chakra consuming that you need to have Kage level chakra reserves just to maintain
4. Minato isnt Normal Minato, He is KM Minato
5. Hashirama isnt Normal Hashirama, he is SM Hashirama
6. Sarutobi is the only other Kage without an insane power boost, and he was able to create ZERO Kage Bushin while trying to maintain the barrier, and he was known to have some of the highest chakra reserves of any shinobi



So, we are basically saying that all the Kage EXCEPT TOBIRAMA needed a power boost in order to create KageBushins while also maintaining the most powerful barrier known to the manga. And Tobirama created not one, but two of them. He has no Sage Mode, Kuubi Chakra, or other massive chakra source outside of his normal reserves.

Tobirama deserves MUCH more respect than what you all are giving him

 

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[Westside]

Hiruzen is just taking yamato's place now XD

 

[SanjiNL]

Yeah you're right. Some people just don't even want to understand.:|

 

[Neonian]

Kishimoto needs to give him more support, this is going to be the last time he's going to be alive. Might as well hax him while you can.​

 

[yondaime4]

I agree that tobirama is being disrespected, but still he did admit he was in a sorry state.

and hiruzen wasnt needed doesnt mean he couldnt have made clones or at least one of even call on enma.

point is ppl get carried away by every little thing that happens but back to tobirama, clearly hes not on the same level as hashi or minato and thats fact, sage mode kcm or not hes just not on that level or at least hasnt proved he is yet.

 

[iRefleX]

6. Sarutobi is the only other Kage without an insane power boost, and he was able to create ZERO Kage Bushin while trying to maintain the barrier, and he was known to have some of the highest chakra reserves of any shinobi

How do you know that? The manga didn't show Hiruzen...so stfu and don't make shit up...lol..this guy...

 

[S A G E]

People who disrespects him just don't want him to turn more OP than certain characters.
Haters gona hate

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Where in the manga did it ever stated Hiruzen was known for having "some of the highest chakra reserves of any shinobi"?

 

[AGoodBoy]

6. Sarutobi is the only other Kage without an insane power boost, and he was able to create ZERO Kage Bushin while trying to maintain the barrier, and he was known to have some of the highest chakra reserves of any shinobi

Or... Hiruzen was the only smart kage. The guy knows all about minato and everything, he already knew he wasn't needed because minato is a beast. Why waste your chakra reserves when you know the 4th will port to the enemy before you even finish your seal. The other kage were just ignorant to the 'yellow flash'

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

they didnt NEED the powerboost for clones or the barriuer. they went to 100% because its the juubi and madara they are fighting.
tobirama lacking SM is proof hes below his brother

3. The Kage are all maintaining a barrier jutsu that is said to be so chakra consuming that you need to have Kage level chakra reserves just to maintain

no it isnt

Sarutobi is the only other Kage without an insane power boost, and he was able to create ZERO Kage Bushin while trying to maintain the barrie

someone had to hold down the fort while hashi and tobirama focused on killing madara the second he was revived. he probably didnt know what was going on

 

[bigfatloser]

Sarutobi was smart enough to realize wasting chakra on clones was pointless
Minato only made one because he only needed one.
Hashirama made a bunch of high level sage wooden clones (not the same as shadow clones!) to deal with madara if need be.
Why did tobirama make two useless clones? and you expect that to be impressive?

How many times has naruto been ridiculously weakened only to make another 50-100 clones out of nowhere? at this point it's manga fact that clones simply aren't hard to make. And it actually does not take 50% of your power for each one, read the manga where narutos first teacher explains how it works.

 

[grizzlyshree]

Tobirama is a great hokage. he is the second strongest and Kishi ill definitely show his powers in the coming chapters!

 

[grizzlyshree]

they didnt NEED the powerboost for clones or the barriuer. they went to 100% because its the juubi and madara they are fighting.
tobirama lacking SM is proof hes below his brother


no it isnt

someone had to hold down the fort while hashi and tobirama focused on killing madara the second he was revived. he probably didnt know what was going on

Guy already told that the barrier can only be maintained by kage level shinobi. the present genration kage are the weakest.

hiruzen and Tobirams arsenals will be shown in the coming chapters and so its too soon to judge him.

 

[Sygris]

Tobirama is a great hokage. he is the second strongest and Kishi ill definitely show his powers in the coming chapters!

lol, not so sure about this.
the so called first "god of shinobi" seems to have vanished from the manga and tobirama, brother of the true "god of shinobi" became minatos nr.1 fanboy.

kishi really doesn't give a shit about them.

 

[grizzlyshree]

lol, not so sure about this.
the so called first "god of shinobi" seems to have vanished from the manga and tobirama, brother of the true "god of shinobi" became minatos nr.1 fanboy.

kishi really doesn't give a shit about them.

what do you mean? SO6P? just wait nad see. edo-hokages werent revived for nothing. they wer revived to fight(whether Naruto beats them in power is pure plot no jutsu).until then, Tobirama,Minato nad Hiruzen will fight show their abilities aas to why the are top 4 hokages.

 

[Sygris]

what do you mean? SO6P? just wait nad see. edo-hokages werent revived for nothing. they wer revived to fight(whether Naruto beats them in power is pure plot no jutsu).until then, Tobirama,Minato nad Hiruzen will fight show their abilities aas to why the are top 4 hokages.

if you remember, one of hiruzens titles was "god of shinobi", which was later given to hashirama.

 

[grizzlyshree]

if you remember, one of hiruzens titles was "god of shinobi", which was later given to hashirama.

its true that Hiruzen wasnamed God of Shinobi, but the title was first gained by S06P.Then followed by Hashiram senju and then passed on to Hiruzen sarutobi, so Hiruzen sarutobi was the third person to gain the monicker.Hashirama was known as God of Shinobi even during his reign. since Hiruzen was named God of Shinobi, he should have techniques in his sleeve.

so there is a high probability for Tobirama,Minato and Hiruzen to show their techs.

 

[trucker]

And it actually does not take 50% of your power for each one, read the manga where narutos first teacher explains how it works.

I agree with this point. The shadow clones can basically be up to 50% if you make 1. But you can make several and portion out that 50% however you like. Naruto make hundreds but they were always weak because they were 1/2% of his chakra.

But I don't understand why any of the edo-kages are complaining about having enough chakra. Did Kishi forget that they are edo and have unlimited chakra reserves?

 

[grizzlyshree]

we just have to wait and see the coming chapters.