Tobirama will beat Madara

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Most people think Tobirama is under the false impression that Madara is the exact same as he was in EMS state, but that ain't true. Tobirama is probably not that much weaker than Hashirama since they're brothers and he could probably hold his own against any opponent!
We also must realize that Tobirama is a god at sensory techniques- he could sense Madara all the way on the other side of the world! So, if Tobirama recognized Madara's power, he probably realized that he had rinnegan and mokuton... And if he knows these things and still believes he could defeat Madara with his own hands, he prolly could.

Has Tobirama ever been known to underestimate his opponents? NO HE HASN'T! :|
 

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Tobirama's a boss. He could hold off Madara, but I doubt he could take him. Hashirama's the only one that could.
 

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IMO tobirama=EMS madara.....edo madara is stronger since he has the rinnegan and hashi cells
 

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Tobirama's a boss. He could hold off Madara, but I doubt he could take him. Hashirama's the only one that could.

i would agree with this^^^ besides it has stated in the manga couple times well now
 

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tobirama feels he can

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hes says he can defeat him and i think kishi will actually let this happen
 
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Most people think Tobirama is under the false impression that Madara is the exact same as he was in EMS state, but that ain't true. Tobirama is probably not that much weaker than Hashirama since they're brothers and he could probably hold his own against any opponent!
We also must realize that Tobirama is a god at sensory techniques- he could sense Madara all the way on the other side of the world! So, if Tobirama recognized Madara's power, he probably realized that he had rinnegan and mokuton... And if he knows these things and still believes he could defeat Madara with his own hands, he prolly could.

Has Tobirama ever been known to underestimate his opponents? NO HE HASN'T! :|

tobirama was killed by gold and silver brothers so i doubt tobirama could defeat madarama. He is weak.
 

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Wow.Sensory ninjas only recognize the presence of a person through their chakra.They can't recognize the techniques of the person through sensing.I dunno where you made this up about sensory techniques.Only edo hashirama is a match to edo madara.Tobirama has no chance of winning against him.With enough help he might just hold off madara.As bad ass he might be,tobirama can't beat madara by himself.
 

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only hashirama can.....tobirama is strong no doubt....but it only hashirama could stop EMS madara. The current madara has mokuton and rinnegan. tobirama can sense madara's chakra....but how can he tell whether he has mokuton???? Or even rinnegan??? i can give an example...when sasuke was fighting danzo karin was constantly sensing both their chakra and locating them. Danzo had hashirama's dna as well....but did karin ever feel the presence of an alien chakra inside danzo??? I guess not!
 

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Madara would solo Hashirama combined with Tobirama they don't know he has the rinnegan and hashiramas mokuton now.
 

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tobirama is badass....but he along with the hokages except hashirama can only hold off madara at his current level. Not to mention there is obito as well.....he's being a lot underrated these days...but trust me, obito is perhaps the most dangerous person out there....even more dangerous than madara.
 

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tobirama was killed by gold and silver brothers so i doubt tobirama could defeat madarama. He is weak.

tobirama wasnt killed by the GS bros completely
imagine 20 4tail chakra cloak naruto
thats how tobirama was defeated pretty much
 

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Tobirama, I'm not even sure could go against Itachi or Sasuke and win. Tobirama is being overrated here.
 

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tobirama was killed by gold and silver brothers so i doubt tobirama could defeat madarama. He is weak.

Wrong, the gold and silver brothers were abolished from the kinkaku force at that time. They were kicked out the moment they attacked the hokage and raikage during a peace treaty.
 

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You overrate tobirama he couldn't even defeat kinGin bro and some 20 fodders while madara solo a division and 5 kages, i doubt even hashirama can take him alone.
 

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im seeing a lot of madara wank in this thread. its very unsightly.

tobirama cannot take down madara though. edo madara at the peak of his power is the same as ems madara. both his rinnegan and mokuton is weaker than his ems by tiers so if someone beats PS they beat madaras weaker techs by default. no one in this manga has ever gotten a powerup from techniques weaker than their full power.
 

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Hashirama is strong because he have kkg mokuton.
Tobirama has s/t, edo, water, kinjutsu, and sensing abilities just to match his epic brother in some levels.
I admire Tobiramas strength more because it was pure hardwork.
 

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No it was called the Ginkaku force and it was like 20 elite ninjas (probably Gold and Silver brothers included) so yeah that's why he lost
 

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madara stomps him. again.
20 elite ninjas (probably Gold and Silver brothers included)
20 fodders and no the brothers werent there

admire Tobiramas strength more because it was pure hardwork.
ET is relatively simple. how is it hard work to make corpses fight for you? his senju bloodline probably helped him a great deal
Tobirama, I'm not even sure could go against Itachi or Sasuke and win. Tobirama is being overrated here.
correct, he is. by you

tobirama was killed by gold and silver brothers
no he wasnt.

imagine 20 4tail chakra cloak naruto
thats how tobirama was defeated pretty much
he was defeated because two pseudo kyuubi jins beat him to near death and left him there. then he died to 20 fodders

tobirama=EMS madara
so kin and gin > madara?

Tobirama is probably not that much weaker than Hashirama since they're brothers
ok. so kaknuro is on gaaras level?

madara at the peak of his power is the same as ems madara. both his rinnegan and mokuton is weaker than his ems by tiers
are you saying edo madara does not have EMS? lol dumb ass. edo madara is the ultimate culmination of everything he ever had in life, with enhanced mokuton, his prime body and immortality to boot. all edos are endowed with powers they had when alive.
ems alone is inferior to ems + rinnegan + mokuton

Has Tobirama ever been known to underestimate his opponents?
yes. he thought he could take sasuke easy
 
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