Tobirama was stronger than madara

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Since manga states that Izuna and madara are equal. Tobirama > madara = Izuna
 

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Izuna was MS user but madara was EMS user -.-'

BTW it is right that tobirama was > EMS madara U_U

Madara himself declared that
 

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Very true....very true indeed scans show Madara on the ground and Hashirama tellin Madara "lets end this u cant win aganist me" Tobirama was standing right behind him like Kill the *****!!
 

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But Madara took Izuna's eyes....=EMS

EMS>MS

I put them as equals or Madara just above him (without kyubi that is)
 

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Izuna was MS user but madara was EMS user -.-'

BTW it is right that tobirama was > EMS madara U_U

Madara himself declared that
I said was that means madara ms. when Izuna was alive
 

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Izuna was MS user but madara was EMS user -.-'

BTW it is right that tobirama was > EMS madara U_U

Madara himself declared that

Manga page please
 

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No way, Madara is eons above Tobirama in his current state.
 

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Ems Maddy>Tobirama... Senju are so OP XD
 

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Just stop. Madara was stronger than izuna. Tobirama could only kill an izuna who wasnt use his best weapon (sharibgan)
 

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Can Tobirama penetrate Susanoo with FTG ?
 

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Just stop. Madara was stronger than izuna. Tobirama could only kill an izuna who wasnt use his best weapon (sharibgan)

Madara wasn't stronger than Izuna. Prove me by giving scans
 

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Izuna didn't show any feats to be compared to Madara.
 

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Never heard of plot holes either.
 

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Ems madara stomps tobirama. Tobirama can do nothing against madaras susanoo
 

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I don't see how Tobirama could even harm Madara, the size of his perfect Susanno is ridiculous.
 

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Ems madara stomps tobirama. Tobirama can do nothing against madaras susanoo

Ms Izuna has susano. Tobirama speed blitz madara and cuts his head off
 

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IIRC, VIZ scan stated that Izuna and Madara TRAINED EQUALLY, not that they were equal.
 

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They trained and worked hard on equal fronts. They were never equal. As for Tobirama killing Izuna, then we only saw the killing blow. According to Madara, Tobirama used to take advantage of the distractions and then strike. It was never a one on one scenario between the Uchiha and Senju Clans and their skirmishes anyway. Izuna wasn't even using Sharingan then.

I don't agree, at all.
 
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