Tobirama VS Uchiha

[LuckyMan]

Old school style. Only Taijutsu and Bukijutsu are allowed. No Dojutsu (Sharingan)

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Mind Set: To kill
Conditions: Tobirama has basic sword

1: Sasuke (Pre-Near Death Power up) *Has Sword*
2: Itachi (Pre-Death) *Has Anbu blade*
3: Obito (Pre-War) *Has basic sword*
4: Madara (Pre-Death) *Has Scythe*

Scenario 2: All Uchiha allowed Sharingan precognition.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Any relevant uchiha > 20 fodders > tobirama

 

[TRE MERCER]

The only one he defeat is Itachi and that's debatable.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Tobirama blitzes rapes all, while only Madara will push him mid diff.

 

[Demonic.]

Tobirama still has FTG? He beats all of them

 

[ARGUS]

^^^FTG is S/T ninjutsu, so that is obviously not valid here,
OT - Tobirama most likely beats all in the first scenario
and in the second scenario, he would lose to madara and sasuke

 

[Nattana]

Tobirama has shown literally 0 Kenjutsu/Bukijutsu skill. FTG sword blitz has nothing to do with actual swordsmanship.

 

[Rιver]

Without Hiraishin Tobirama gets schooled by Madara badly, Itachi because Itachi, Sasuke because he's the little bro of Solo King and Obito because of Mokuton.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Tobirama has shown literally 0 Kenjutsu/Bukijutsu skill. FTG sword blitz has nothing to do with actual swordsmanship.

Wow, you're the first person I've seen to actually use their brain and say this.

The amount of times I've seen people say "Tobirama is a master swordsman because he uses a sword" -________-

Like wtf?! Any ninja can wield a sword and use it, doesn't mean they're a master swordsman. People use Kunai's in the exact same fashion as swords. Swords have longer reach, however kunai allow for more versatility (you can carry more kunai and use them as projectiles). Hence why Tobirama can use FTG slash with both a sword and kunai, because there's really no difference apart from swords being longer.

 

[Unorthodox]

They all win What speed feats does tobirama have to suggest he would pressure them with it? ill be waiting

 

[Brother Numpsay]

^^^FTG is S/T ninjutsu, so that is obviously not valid here,
OT - Tobirama most likely beats all in the first scenario
and in the second scenario, he would lose to madara and sasuke

I was taking FTG into consideration but I agree with this.

Wow, you're the first person I've seen to actually use their brain and say this.

The amount of times I've seen people say "Tobirama is a master swordsman because he uses a sword" -________-

Like wtf?! Any ninja can wield a sword and use it, doesn't mean they're a master swordsman.

Lol so apparently you two are the only ones with a brain to state that he has 0 skills with a sword/Bukijutsu then says a bunch of gibberish to support that he has 0 skills with it.

Anyone with a brain can tell that in such a young age, Tobirama picked up a sword and used it before Hashirama and Madara by feats. His progression of that age follows along with Hashirama and Madara building their skills in that field.

They all win What speed feats does tobirama have to suggest he would pressure them with it? ill be waiting

Lel, people give Hashirama speed feats by keeping up with Madara in a CQC battle. Madara already admitted his speed is inferior to Tobirama. The wank and hypocrisy isn't going to change at all.

 

[Unorthodox]

Lel, people give Hashirama speed feats by keeping up with Madara in a CQC battle. Madara already admitted his speed is inferior to Tobirama. The wank and hypocrisy isn't going to change at all.

I dont give a fk what people give Hashirama also i said post a scan of tobirama's speed not give hype about it. They all win nuff said

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I dont give a fk what people give Hashirama also i said post a scan of tobirama's speed not give hype about it. They all win nuff said

Well anyone with logic and reasoning would know that someone like Madara who admitted he isn't faster, can tell that he is going to move faster then anyone there in that category. Someone who is fast and strong themselves that admits to something doesn't equal hype.

 

[Benjamin King]

Tobirama lost to 20 Jonin. He doesn't have a chance against an Uchiha.​

 

[Touken]

Tobirama's shown the best reflex and combat speed from all of them there. Couple that with the fact he's been using a sword since he was a child, he most likely beats all of them.

 

[Rιver]

Tobirama's shown the best reflex and combat speed from all of them there. Couple that with the fact he's been using a sword since he was a child, he most likely beats all of them.

Madara schooled him Tai/Kenjutsu although the Senju used Hiraishin. So nope.

 

[Nattana]

Lol so apparently you two are the only ones with a brain to state that he has 0 skills with a sword/Bukijutsu then says a bunch of gibberish to support that he has 0 skills with it.

You keep giving Tobirama feats he doesn't have. He has shown literally 0 Kenjutsu skills so far. 0! Just because he carries a sword doesn't make him a great swordsman. I'm not denying he could be one, but it wasn't shown. Sword slashes with FTG aren't Kenjutsu.

 

[Oblivionx]

only one here who can be a threat is a serious madara or may be itachi.. but tobirama is pretty smart so i'd say he even beats itachi...

 

[Apêx1]

Tobirama's shown the best reflex and combat speed from all of them there. Couple that with the fact he's been using a sword since he was a child, he most likely beats all of them.

Sasuke cuts through his sword while parrying his attack as he has never shown to channel chakra into his sword. Itachi's reaction speed is faster due to the Kirin instance, coupled with the fact he was able to blitz DSM Kabuto when a Susano arrow couldn't. Obito loses, Madara logically wins.

 

[Touken]

Madara schooled him Tai/Kenjutsu although the Senju used Hiraishin. So nope.

With Hashirama's Sage Mode, yeah. I thought this was base Madara?

Sasuke cuts through his sword while parrying his attack as he has never shown to channel chakra into his sword. Itachi's reaction speed is faster due to the Kirin instance, coupled with the fact he was able to blitz DSM Kabuto when a Susano arrow couldn't. Obito loses, Madara logically wins.

I thought there's no ninjutsu involved? But still, blind SM Madara dodged almost every one of Sasuke's kenjutsu attacks with ease. I know SM Madara has much better reaction feats than Tobirama, but even with Tobirama's reaction feats, he should be capable of reproducing the same results. Not to mention Madara had opportunities to counter attack Sasuke but chose not to as he tried to get Sasuke to join him, whereas Tobirama would strike him down the moment Sasuke leaves himself open.

Sasuke telegraphed his attack; Itachi literally knew what was coming. That's no reaction feat. I can't remember the Itachi/Sasuke vs. Kabuto fight, so if you could show some scans, that'd be great. I haven't gone over that fight in ages.

Tobirama has much more impressive reaction/combat feats than base Madara so I don't know how he "logically wins" unless I'm missing something obvious.