[VS] Tobirama vs Tsunade

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KidGamer65

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Edo Tensei along with Space Time Ninjutsu clearly puts him above her, not to mention his hype also puts him above her. Second strongest in the village, not counting the defected Madara. Not to mention Tsunade can't beat any users of Complex Space Time Ninjutsu in this series.

Tobirama takes this mid diff.
 

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Edo Tensei along with Space Time Ninjutsu clearly puts him above her, not to mention his hype also puts him above her. Second strongest in the village, not counting the defected Madara. Not to mention Tsunade can't beat any users of Complex Space Time Ninjutsu in this series.

Tobirama takes this mid diff.
Edo tensei means nothing if it summons a being as powerful as academy student Naruto. And you can't say his Edo-tensei doesn't have that powerlevel as you haven't seen them in action. Without a valid way in which he uses or strategizes with s/t that also is moot.
 

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Edo tensei means nothing if it summons a being as powerful as academy student Naruto. And you can't say his Edo-tensei doesn't have that powerlevel as you haven't seen them in action. Without a valid way in which he uses or strategizes with s/t that also is moot.

No, stop trying to rob Tobirama of his abilities to make Tsunade win. According to Edo Madara, it was used for devastating attacks to clear battlefields. Devastating attacks on Edo Madara's terms. Which means he most likely revived shinobi that were Kage-level. Do you honestly think that Edo Tensei would make Tobirama revered if he revived fodders?:
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Tsunade has no way to seal the Edo, eventually dies from chakra exertion. Tobirama wins neg diff.
 

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No, stop trying to rob Tobirama of his abilities to make Tsunade win. According to Edo Madara, it was used for devastating attacks to clear battlefields. Devastating attacks on Edo Madara's terms. Which means he most likely revived shinobi that were Kage-level. Do you honestly think that Edo Tensei would make Tobirama revered if he revived fodders?:
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Tsunade has no way to seal the Edo, eventually dies from chakra exertion. Tobirama wins neg diff.
Madara said that was the intention not that it ever came to fruition. Key difference
And if it had come to fruition then Tobirama should have been able to summon his edos to hold off the Kinkaku force easily and been home for supper.
 
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Tobirama vs 20 elite jounin do you know what that means ? Tobirama vs 20 of the likes of Kakashi and Gai.
he had no way of winning.

Kakashi is a main character. thats why he is so strong.
A regular elite jounin would be on Temari's level.
 

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How the f*ck are you people saying Tobirama has no feats? Are you people daft? He invented Edo Tensei. That is a FEAT. He can use Suiton techs in a place absent of water. That is a FEAT. With these two feats alone he obliterates Tsunade, low diff.

And what is this sh*t about Tsunade having Raiton? She has shown no such feat. F*cking hypocrites.

Well some people don't look at the facts at hand and exclude his abilities because we haven't seen him but they have to also pick at the fct that we haven't seen him summon anywhere. Haters guna hate LOL
 

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Edo tensei means nothing if it summons a being as powerful as academy student Naruto. And you can't say his Edo-tensei doesn't have that powerlevel as you haven't seen them in action. Without a valid way in which he uses or strategizes with s/t that also is moot.

The fact that he has edo tensei and can bring back people that can quite frankly 'devistate' the opponant. Thanks to omnipotents scan I have proof that the edos he had to summon were powerful, even if they were normal jounin, they are EDO and tsunade (like people have said) has no sealing techs so she would be ultimately be fighting a pointless battle
 

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It's funny, 'cause you said Tsunade > Hiruzen, the god of shinobi. And now you say, Tobirama > Tsunade. And Tobirama has absolutely no feats. And we can't go by hype. We don't know who could he summon or how his S/ T ninjutsu worked.
When did I say Tsunade>Hiruzen? My rankings go like this.

1. Hashirama
2. Minato
3. Hiruzen
4. Tobirama
5. Tsunade

He does have feats such as being able to hold his own against 20 jounin level ninjas which Tsunade can't do. 20 Asumas, 20 Daruis, 20 Temaris, 20 Nejis or whatever are strong enough to fodderize Tsunade but the same can't be said of Tobirama who despite losing, was able to allow his squad to escape.

Even still if I did say Tsunade>Hiruzen, I probably was talking about old Hiruzen since we have actually seen him fight but with Tobirama we haven't.
 

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How the f*ck are you people saying Tobirama has no feats? Are you people daft? He invented Edo Tensei. That is a FEAT. He can use Suiton techs in a place absent of water. That is a FEAT. With these two feats alone he obliterates Tsunade, low diff.

And what is this sh*t about Tsunade having Raiton? She has shown no such feat. F*cking hypocrites.
I would like to start by asking why is the tone of your post so rude? Inventing a jutsu is a feat? So then Tsunade invented Creation Rebirth, Byakugou, improved upon medical techniques, and developed the system of the medical ninja. So if we're keeping count that would be two S ranked techniques. And she globally instituted procedures for medical nin and team formations for that matter. Versus Tobirama's 1 s ranked technique.
Additionally, he used a suiton in a place absent of water? That is a big deal? Last I checked that was a feat shared by Kakashi, Mei, Kisame,
Gamabunta, a number of fodders against madara and Haku. In fact Haku went a step further to fuse wind and water style together in a place with no water. So using water in a place with no water present is hardly a noteworthy thing to mention at this point. In fact it wasn't pparticularly impressive when the anbu said it in the first place.

Tobirama vs 20 elite jounin do you know what that means ? Tobirama vs 20 of the likes of Kakashi and Gai.
he had no way of winning.

My point had nothing to do with the personal strength of Tobirama, rather the power of his edos. Had his edos reached their intention of being map changing then those edos should have been able to easily handle those jounin. This however was not the case. Which tells us the original intention of the jutsu did not come to fruition and we therefore cannot hold any particular merit to his Edo tensei.


When did I say Tsunade>Hiruzen? My rankings go like this.

1. Hashirama
2. Minato
3. Hiruzen
4. Tobirama
5. Tsunade

He does have feats such as being able to hold his own against 20 jounin level ninjas which Tsunade can't do. 20 Asumas, 20 Daruis, 20 Temaris, 20 Nejis or whatever are strong enough to fodderize Tsunade but the same can't be said of Tobirama who despite losing, was able to allow his squad to escape.

Even still if I did say Tsunade>Hiruzen, I probably was talking about old Hiruzen since we have actually seen him fight but with Tobirama we haven't.


Tsunade vs 20 Kurenai's.
Tsunade vs 20 Shizune's
Tsunade vs 20 C's
Asuma I would say is arguable. Considering he doesn't necessarily have a way of dealing with Katsuyu so it would be a strenuous battle for Tsunade no doubt. But the fatal flaw is that Asuma must get in close to get a kill shot. While he is not bad at taijutsu by any means. We look at 20 Katsuyu clones which will be of considerable size still, much bigger than a person, and Tsunade herself I don't see Asuma coming out victorious.
 
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The fact that he has edo tensei and can bring back people that can quite frankly 'devistate' the opponant. Thanks to omnipotents scan I have proof that the edos he had to summon were powerful, even if they were normal jounin, they are EDO and tsunade (like people have said) has no sealing techs so she would be ultimately be fighting a pointless battle
Orochimaru was the one who perfected Edo Tensei, there is no information on how improved his Edo Tensei was, it could also be an unimproved beta version which had yet to be improved, there is also no information about the persons he really could summon. I guess, his Edo Tensei wasn't very suited for fights, as he got killed by the gold and silver brothers.
 
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