[VS] Tobirama vs Sasuke

[Bogard]

Tobirama wins mid difficulty. Goshun Mawashi or Gojou Kibaku fouda are his means to bypass Susanoo

 

[KidGamer65]

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Damnit, My bad. Thought it was current Sasuke.

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Sasuke loses then.​

Yeah, agreed.

 

[Murasame]

Yeah, agreed.

Are you just following what he says? Not that there isn't any problem with that.

 

[KidGamer65]

Are you just following what he says? Not that there isn't any problem with that.

Nah, my opinion was that Tobirama wins as shown in my first post......I said Sasuke would win, but remembered that a lot of people don't factor in

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Susanoo when talking about MS Sasuke...but to clarify:

With this Tobirama loses, without he wins.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Nah, my opinion was that Tobirama wins as shown in my first post......I said Sasuke would win, but remembered that a lot of people don't factor in

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Susanoo when talking about MS Sasuke...but to clarify:

With this Tobirama loses, without he wins.

Its just because he lost his sight nigh instantly after achieving it. A "Prime" MS Sasuke would have it, but not the standard one.

Having that Susano'O doesn't really change the outcome of most of his matches or his place in tier anyways. His vs forum rival SM Naruto would still beat him even with that.​

Are you just following what he says? Not that there isn't any problem with that.

He and I are on good terms, but I wouldn't say he's following what I say.​

 

[KidGamer65]

Its just because he lost his sight nigh instantly after achieving it. A "Prime" MS Sasuke would have it, but not the standard one.

Having that Susano'O doesn't really change the outcome of most of his matches or his place in tier anyways. His vs forum rival SM Naruto would still beat him even with that.​

Gonna have to disagree on that one. lmao.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Gonna have to disagree on that one. lmao.

I know. Though my main reason for changing my opinion from it being a tie to Naruto winning was evidence of severe restrictions on Sasuke's Mangekyo usage without the Eien no Mangekyo​

 

[KidGamer65]

I know. Though my main reason for changing my opinion from it being a tie to Naruto winning was evidence of severe restrictions on Sasuke's Mangekyo usage without the Eien no Mangekyo​

Yeah, that led me to believe that Current SM Naruto can defeat MS Sasuke as he's presented in the manga, without his Final Susanoo.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Yeah, that led me to believe that Current SM Naruto can defeat MS Sasuke as he's presented in the manga, without his Final Susanoo.

This is where I'm at right now

Base/3T Sasuke = Base Naruto (Pre-Pain Arc) < Base/3T Sasuke (Post Eien no Mangekyo) = Base Naruto (Current) < Mangekyo Sharingan Sasuke (Standard) < Mangekyo Sharingan Sasuke (Prime) = Sage Mode Naruto (Pain Arc) < Sage Mode Naruto (Current) < Eien no Mangekyo Sasuke (Pre Perfect Susano'O) < Kyuubi Chakra Mode Naruto < Eien no Mangekyo Sasuke (w/Kyuubi Chakra Enhancement - Pre Perfect Susano'O) < Eien no Mangekyo Sasuke (Post Perfect Susano'O) < Biju Mode Naruto < Biju Sage Mode Naruto

Notes:

• I didn't use varying amounts of "<" signs to show how far the gap is, well, because im lazy.
• Eien no Mangekyo Base Sasuke is arguably faster and has better chakra control, hence why he's above his standard base form.
• I still don't understand why some people say Sage Mode Naruto is superior to EMS Sasuke without PS

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[Touken]

Tobirama wins mid difficulty. Goshun Mawashi or Gojou Kibaku fouda are his means to bypass Susanoo

He doesn't really need that; he can easily just use Suiton to teleport Sasuke to himself.

 

[Murasame]

Nah, my opinion was that Tobirama wins as shown in my first post......I said Sasuke would win, but remembered that a lot of people don't factor in

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Susanoo when talking about MS Sasuke...but to clarify:

With this Tobirama loses, without he wins.

Even though he only activated that stage of Susanoo only to lose it due to going blind I believe he can use attacks like enton magatama seeing as how it has an enton orb in its hand. I think sasuke could take this if Penguin allowed the final susanoo and gives Sasuke a sealing jutsu.

 

[KidGamer65]

Even though he only activated that stage of Susanoo only to lose it due to going blind I believe he can use attacks like enton magatama seeing as how it has an enton orb in its hand. I think sasuke could take this if Penguin allowed the final susanoo and gives Sasuke a sealing jutsu.

lmao, you read my thoughts right here. This is exactly what I was thinking.

 

[Unorthodox]

sasuke uses a ribcage to destroy him he cannot dodge amaterasu because he dont know how it works GG tobirama

 

[Penguin]

sasuke uses a ribcage to destroy him he cannot dodge amaterasu because he dont know how it works GG tobirama

He knows all MS powers generate from their eyes, so he would sense the build up chakra and FTG away.

 

[Minator93]

Actually Tobirama wins even w/out the ET U_U

 

[Mellanoma]

This battle is one sided since sasuke has no Sealing techs for Edo Hiruzen or Edo Danzo.

However, I shall give it a try

I say Sasuke in this fight considering the following.

Sasuke has Raiton, Katon, and Blaze release on his side.

Tobirama has no jutsu that can get through Susanoo nore does he have suitable FTG capable of teleporting to different locations. On top of that he can only create 1 FTG seal at a time. I'd imagine Sasuke's Susanoo arrows can quickly dispath Hiruzen and Danzo while Sasuke can use his Raiton to take care of Tobirama. In close range tobirama was praised for his Taijutsu but against Sasuke Sharingan and his kenjutsu I seriously doubt Tobirama could defeat him(Especially Kusangi blade)

Verdict:

Sasuke High difficulty

 

[Murasame]

He knows all MS powers generate from their eyes, so he would sense the build up chakra and FTG away.

I don't know much about Tobirama but how is he going to FTG away? He'd have to mark another spot and with foot speed I don't think that'll work when Sasuke can use Ama or Arrows.

 

[AGoodBoy]

This is where I'm at right now

Base/3T Sasuke = Base Naruto (Pre-Pain Arc) < Base/3T Sasuke (Post Eien no Mangekyo) = Base Naruto (Current) < Mangekyo Sharingan Sasuke (Standard) < Mangekyo Sharingan Sasuke (Prime) = Sage Mode Naruto (Pain Arc) < Sage Mode Naruto (Current) < Eien no Mangekyo Sasuke (Pre Perfect Susano'O) < Kyuubi Chakra Mode Naruto < Eien no Mangekyo Sasuke (w/Kyuubi Chakra Enhancement - Pre Perfect Susano'O) < Eien no Mangekyo Sasuke (Post Perfect Susano'O) < Biju Mode Naruto < Biju Sage Mode Naruto

Notes:

• I didn't use varying amounts of "<" signs to show how far the gap is, well, because im lazy.
• Eien no Mangekyo Base Sasuke is arguably faster and has better chakra control, hence why he's above his standard base form.
• I still don't understand why some people say Sage Mode Naruto is superior to EMS Sasuke without PS

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Holy shit. Base naruto (pre pain)= base/3t Sasuke? Wow. Kish I made it so clear that base/3t start shippuden Sasuke was so far above naruto that naruto needed a massive upgrade just to catch up. An arm ruining rasenshuriken isn't upgrade enough to take on 3t Sasuke. At best, base naruto pure pain was <= base Sasuke who had his sharingan off.

 

[NarutoIndra]

I don't know much about Tobirama but how is he going to FTG away? He'd have to mark another spot and with foot speed I don't think that'll work when Sasuke can use Ama or Arrows.

He can mark a Kunai during battle..... People always think he can't mark a Kunai only because Minato has custom made Kunai's. If he can mark the ground and people, there's nothing implying he can't mark a Kunai. I highly doubt it would take longer to mark a Kunai than putting up a Susano and shooting an arrow.

 

[Xlad]

Tobirama. I think