Tobirama vs Orochimaru

[Brother Numpsay]

Location: SA vs Juubito

Intel: Manga

Distance: Reason

Restrictions: Edo Tensei.

Give reasons to your conclusion.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Didn't Oro and Taka shit bricks once Tobirama lifted his finger?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Didn't Oro and Taka shit bricks once Tobirama lifted his finger?

Conclusion doesnt get you anywhere on how Orochimaru loses. Reading the whole chapter helps though, instead of partial context of his action/reaction.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Conclusion doesnt get you anywhere on how Orochimaru loses. Reading the whole chapter helps though, instead of partial context of his action/reaction.

Gojo Bakufuda gg Oro

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Gojo Bakufuda gg Oro

How is he going to set it up without himself getting caught?

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

How is he going to set it up without himself getting caught?

He can have a Kage Bunshin do it

 

[Brother Numpsay]

He can have a Kage Bunshin do it

He can also end up tagging a Kage Bunshin too.

 

[Transcendence]

Orochimaru has no feats suggesting he can react to an FTG blitz. He can rebirth all he wants. Tobirama continuously blitzes and makes Orochimaru waste all of his chakra on rebirthing.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Oro gets Blitz 10 times over. Tobi marks oro once, then decapitates him.

Everytime oral rebirth is used, Tobirama instantly appears right next to oro and slices him again.

 

[Xlad]

Tobirama was able to react to Juubito's blitz by tagging him. Orochimaru is tiers slower than him. :| Given that Tobirama saved Nard, Sauce, and Mina from Juubito's TS bomb, I can't see Oro's counter being placed above it.

Just my short answer before I leave.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Orochimaru doesn't really have the speed feats to keep up with Tobirama's Shunshin or FTG antics

Tobirama takes it Mid-Diff

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Orochimaru has no feats suggesting he can react to an FTG blitz. He can rebirth all he wants. Tobirama continuously blitzes and makes Orochimaru waste all of his chakra on rebirthing.

Orochimaru isn't dumb either.

- It is very hard to detect a rebirth to begin with

- Spores can perfectly sap chakra from Tobirama and the fact that he can duplicate his chakra nature/ability with it, and appearance, so he will never distinguish his clones from Orochimaru, until attacked.

- Orochimaru's true form is a perfect counter base on your premise on how he "loses". Vapor poison gets Tobirama from continuum blitz kill.

So I dont see your premise working here.

Oro gets Blitz 10 times over. Tobi marks oro once, then decapitates him.

Everytime oral rebirth is used, Tobirama instantly appears right next to oro and slices him again.

Same as above

 

[Transcendence]

Orochimaru isn't dumb either.

- It is very hard to detect a rebirth to begin with

- Spores can perfectly sap chakra from Tobirama and the fact that he can duplicate his chakra nature/ability with it, and appearance, so he will never distinguish his clones from Orochimaru, until attacked.

- Orochimaru's true form is a perfect counter base on your premise on how he "loses". Vapor poison gets Tobirama from continuum blitz kill.

So I dont see your premise working here.



Same as above

For your first two points; Tobirama is a sensor. That alone renders those points moot. And Orochimaru's true form won't bother Tobirama at all. Multiple shadow clones can mark it and multiple Hiraishingiri's eviscerate it, or the clones can all use Suidanha and slice it in half. Not that hard here.

 

[Nattana]

For your first two points; Tobirama is a sensor. That alone renders those points moot. And Orochimaru's true form won't bother Tobirama at all. Multiple shadow clones can mark it and multiple Hiraishingiri's eviscerate it, or the clones can all use Suidanha and slice it in half. Not that hard here.

Neither slicing it in half nor eviscerating it does the job. Oro's True Form got sliced by Sasuke into several pieces, yet a second later it was all reattached and fully healed.

One does not simply oppose White Snake's Powers.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

For your first two points; Tobirama is a sensor. That alone renders those points moot.

You can still catch a sensor off guard, shown multiple times in the manga. Plus:

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And Orochimaru's true form won't bother Tobirama at all. Multiple shadow clones can mark it and multiple Hiraishingiri's eviscerate it, or the clones can all use Suidanha and slice it in half. Not that hard here.

We canonically seen Orochimaru being constantly sliced apart by Sasuke. So its still a perfect counter. And base on the first two points I made copying Tobirama body and using his own chakra nature against, can lower his chances of getting overwhelmed here.

Plus summonings, that gets rid of FTG weapon tags.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Tobirama mid diff via kage bunshins, hiraishingiri, and suidanha if true form is brought out. Hydra's attacks get casually evaded. Gojō would be overkill.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Tobirama mid diff via kage bunshins, hiraishingiri, and suidanha if true form is brought out. Hydra's attacks get casually evaded. Gojō would be overkill.

All addressed. Excluding Hydra. I could aruge on the basis on how Hydra would be dangerous though.

 

[HiddenSound]

Orochimaru has no feats suggesting he can react to an FTG blitz. He can rebirth all he wants. Tobirama continuously blitzes and makes Orochimaru waste all of his chakra on rebirthing.

Pretty much.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Pretty much.

Already addressed the issue.

But after re-reading what was stated, I dont thing FTG tags stays on the body once rebirth.

And shouldnt Orochimaru perception be better if he is possibly a sensor? When BZ takes a host he uses their ability. That could be proof that White Zetsu can sense chakra.

 

[HiddenSound]

Already addressed the issue.

But after re-reading what was stated, I dont thing FTG tags stays on the body once rebirth.

And shouldnt Orochimaru perception be better if he is possibly a sensor? When BZ takes a host he uses their ability. That could be proof that White Zetsu can sense chakra.

One could argue Minato's tag on Obito when he used Izanagi. Though Obito didn't know so there was no way he could've rewritten himself without the tag...
Still, it doesn't matter if Orochimaru senses Tobirama coming, Tobirama is not only much faster, but a far better sensor as well. Orochimaru's heightened perception wouldn't change much.