[VS] Tobirama vs MS Sasuke

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Smh...can people not use their brains anymore? Do you really think that any ninja in this manga worth their salt, let alone Tobirama, would only carry around 1 Kunai? 1 sole Kunai? lmao, not sure if serious. Ninja are equipped with plenty of Kunai the moment they become Genin yet Tobirama only has 1.........

Lol Think pal. Think.

***** he's only shiwn one, why da fukk would i say he has a random # of kunia at his disposal?!

How many does he have? 3,5,10

Ppl always mention manga fact, yet make claims that haven't been shown as proof. I shouldn't even waste my time with this site
 

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By the nonsense logic that you two are using, KCM Minato can only use 1 clone at a time...even though logic says he can make more.

If that was Minato, he would have scattered his kunai around Madara. Why? Because that's his style.

Just like he did in every single fight bar his fight with Ay?

Oh wait.....

***** he's only shiwn one, why da fukk would i say he has a random # of kunia at his disposal?!

How many does he have? 3,5,10

Ppl always mention manga fact, yet make claims that haven't been shown as proof. I shouldn't even waste my time with this site

The ones who shouldn't waste their time are the people discussing anything with two people who believe Tobirama only has 1 Kunai in his disposal, please think before making such foolish posts.

You mention Kunai number like there is any number that has ever been presented in this manga, even though that clearly isn't the case.
 
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By the nonsense logic that you two are using, KCM Minato can only use 1 clone at a time...even though logic says he can make more.



Just like he did in every single fight bar his fight with Ay?

Oh wait.....



The ones who shouldn't waste their time are the people discussing anything with two people who believe Tobirama only has 1 Kunai in his disposal, please think before making such foolish posts.

You mention Kunai number like there is any number that has ever been presented in this manga, even though that clearly isn't the case.

You're dumbass *****. Minato has obviously shown the use of multiple kunia, both alive and dead.


I.mention the # obviously illustrated in the series. You're discussing some fanfiction in which he has multiple. marked kunia at hand. This random number in which cant be proven nor specifically argued against in any match-up.

Kid you're exactly that, a child who I've entertained long enough.
 
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I'm not saying Tobirama only has 1 kunai. But whoever made the comparison above about Minato and Tobirama's fighting style with FTG should be considered here.

Minato has been shown using multiple kunais at one time fighting, he even called it a

We have to judge Tobirama's usage of FTG from the way the manga presents it. .

As Madara stated, Tobirama likes to attack when the enemy has felt like they won. Tobirama never tried Minato's multiple kunai trick against Madara.

Just because Tobirama invented FTG, doesn't mean others cannot add to it. Ex: Minato naming that multiple kunai FTG trick. Similar to how Minato invented Rasengan, but Naruto took it a step further inventing planet rasengan or FRS.

I'll give this to Tobirama. He can sense Amaterasu, can dodge Susano'o arrows, and if Danzo broke Sasuke's Tsukuyomi, Tobirama is breaking it as well. Especially since Tobirama has been fighting primarily Uchihas his whole life, even taking down MS Izuna.
 
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With no knowledge Sasuke most likely loses because he might engage in cqc match and end up getting unknowingly tagged. From there Tobirama teleports and slashes him.

With knowledge it would be a high diff fight for either one. Tobirama can be hard to kill with clones and FTG and can win by outlasting. Sasuke is the powerhouse in this match up so Sasuke wins if he ever gets him with amaterasu or arrows.
 

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To the idiots who think I said Tobirama has 1 kunai. No, I meant the maximum I've seen him wield at once is 1. He doesn't scatter his kunai around the battlefield.

And it's so obvious Minato is the only one that does it because he had prepped Kunai, that's the main reason he does it. Tobiramas aren't prepped, marking each kunai in the midst of battle will just waste his time. Hence the ingenious idea of Minato to prep all his before hand.

I don't even know why this is an argument, when I see the scan of Tobirama throwing 20 + prepped Kunai at once then I'll believe it. It's the same as saying Tobirama can use s/t barrier. Maybe he could since he has ftg after all, but that's just a myth and speculation, it's the same thing with regards to the kunai.
 

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Tobirama wins, Amaterasu isn't affecting Tobirama when he can counter with Suijinheki. Genjutsu work due to the Kage Bushin's existence and his prior experience. Susano'o is the only factor here; it's weaponry is overcome by Hirashin and can be teleported away if Tobirama or his clones close the gap.

Smh...can people not use their brains anymore? Do you really think that any ninja in this manga worth their salt, let alone Tobirama, would only carry around 1 Kunai? 1 sole Kunai? lmao, not sure if serious. Ninja are equipped with plenty of Kunai the moment they become Genin yet Tobirama only has 1.........

Lol Think pal. Think.

Gave me a good chuckle.
 

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I'm not saying Tobirama only has 1 kunai. But whoever made the comparison above about Minato and Tobirama's fighting style with FTG should be considered here.

I'm not saying that it's his fighting style, i'm saying that he has learned something.. He has seen Minato use a more efficent way of utilizing ftg in the war. A smart man would adapt and use it ina fight.. infact, he DID copy it and used a similar offensive tactic against madara

he wouldn't have 20 already prepped kunai, but he could mark one every time he pulls it out and throw it
 

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I'm not saying that it's his fighting style, i'm saying that he has learned something.. He has seen Minato use a more efficent way of utilizing ftg in the war. A smart man would adapt and use it ina fight.. infact, he DID copy it and used a similar offensive tactic against madara

he wouldn't have 20 already prepped kunai, but he could mark one every time he pulls it out and throw it

He never copied it, he's been using Hirashingiri since the before the village was founded, he would've marked his sword to use Hirashingiri.
 

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but he could mark one every time he pulls it out and throw it

That's the point I'm trying to make, that's a waste of time. Against a high level opponent - that would be stupid and gives away the jutsu, gives the opponent time to analyse what Tobirama is doing.

The advantage of prepped Kunai is that it wastes no time, doesn't allow your opponent to figure out your jutsu so quickly and it doesn't make you susceptible to a surprise attack.

Also, when Raikage went up against Minato, even though Ay knew how the FTG worked. He needed to try and locate each kunai and predict where Minato would pop up. If Tobirama did it the way you suggested, any idiot (cough cough Ay cough) would be able to counter it since doing it each time is so obvious to the opponent.

That's why we only see Tobirama use 1, because that's how he fights and because he doesn't have any prepped Kunai.
 

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Just like he did in every single fight bar his fight with Ay?

Oh wait.....

Minato spreads his Kunai when he needs to U_U

1. He did it in the third world war
2. He had 2-3 Kunai's lying around when he finished off Obito
3. He did is against Ay
4. He did it in the 4th war as well, 1 Kunai at the sea, many others spread around Kilometers of area where the war is going on
5. He also used 7 Kunai when he went up against Sage Obito [it didn't work tough]

So Minato almost always spreads his Kunais, whilst Tobirama prolly picked his idea as I've never seen him spreading any Kunais, all he had was 1 Kunai which he handled himself U_U
 

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Minato spreads his Kunai when he needs to U_U

1. He did it in the third world war
2. He had 2-3 Kunai's lying around when he finished off Obito
3. He did is against Ay
4. He did it in the 4th war as well, 1 Kunai at the sea, many others spread around Kilometers of area where the war is going on
5. He also used 7 Kunai when he went up against Sage Obito [it didn't work tough]

So Minato almost always spreads his Kunais, whilst Tobirama prolly picked his idea as I've never seen him spreading any Kunais, all he had was 1 Kunai which he handled himself U_U
Couldn't have said it any better
 

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You need to mark your weapon to do that.

And yet again a Tobirama thread becomes centred about Minato. We're learning more about Tobirama every week, hopefully we'll see enough that'll shut these tards up.
 

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Sasuke wins mid diff.
 

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Minato spreads his Kunai when he needs to U_U

1. He did it in the third world war
2. He had 2-3 Kunai's lying around when he finished off Obito
3. He did is against Ay
4. He did it in the 4th war as well, 1 Kunai at the sea, many others spread around Kilometers of area where the war is going on
5. He also used 7 Kunai when he went up against Sage Obito [it didn't work tough]

So Minato almost always spreads his Kunais, whilst Tobirama prolly picked his idea as I've never seen him spreading any Kunais, all he had was 1 Kunai which he handled himself U_U

1. Against a platoon of ninja.
2. Not spreading his Kunai, those were already there.
3. Already mentioned this.
4. Not spreading his Kunai either, he left 1 at sea for a purpose. Do I have to explain what spreading is to you?
5. He never spread his Kunai, he was about to use a jutsu and those Kunai were needed, not spreading at all.

Its not even Minato's fighting style, its something he did when it was necessary. You've only seen Tobirama fight against 2 enemies, and Minato didn't spread Kunai against them either, your point?

If Tobirama needs to do so? Why wouldn't he do so? You guys can think however you please, but thinking that Tobirama is only going to use 1 Kunai in a fight is dumb.

You're dumbass *****. Minato has obviously shown the use of multiple kunia, both alive and dead.


I.mention the # obviously illustrated in the series. You're discussing some fanfiction in which he has multiple. marked kunia at hand. This random number in which cant be proven nor specifically argued against in any match-up.

Kid you're exactly that, a child who I've entertained long enough.

Not even gonna bother with this dumbass.
 

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1. Against a platoon of ninja.
2. Not spreading his Kunai, those were already there.
3. Already mentioned this.
4. Not spreading his Kunai either, he left 1 at sea for a purpose. Do I have to explain what spreading is to you?
5. He never spread his Kunai, he was about to use a jutsu and those Kunai were needed, not spreading at all.

Its not even Minato's fighting style, its something he did when it was necessary. You've only seen Tobirama fight against 2 enemies, and Minato didn't spread Kunai against them either, your point?

If Tobirama needs to do so? Why wouldn't he do so? You guys can think however you please, but thinking that Tobirama is only going to use 1 Kunai in a fight is dumb.



Not even gonna bother with this dumbass.

Minato did attempt to spread multiple kunai against Juubi, he had a specific name for this ability. You're comparing a shinibo who's known for having/showing multiple kunia in each of his fights to another who had randomly used one last minute against Madara.

You're right we can think whatever we want and we're doing exactly that. Just like your ***** ass can believe whatever you want. You still have no proof that Tobirama has multple marked kunia, his fighting style doesn't even depend on the use of kunia.

Don't like it, don't quote, it's quite simple.
 

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1. Against a platoon of ninja.
2. Not spreading his Kunai, those were already there.
3. Already mentioned this.
4. Not spreading his Kunai either, he left 1 at sea for a purpose. Do I have to explain what spreading is to you?
5. He never spread his Kunai, he was about to use a jutsu and those Kunai were needed, not spreading at all.

Its not even Minato's fighting style, its something he did when it was necessary. You've only seen Tobirama fight against 2 enemies, and Minato didn't spread Kunai against them either, your point?
Hey, I once used this point against you in a debate but you argued against me D:
 

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I'm not saying that it's his fighting style, i'm saying that he has learned something.. He has seen Minato use a more efficent way of utilizing ftg in the war. A smart man would adapt and use it ina fight.. infact, he DID copy it and used a similar offensive tactic against madara

he wouldn't have 20 already prepped kunai, but he could mark one every time he pulls it out and throw it

So you're saying he learned to utilize this ability after observing Minato's fighting style. Ok, that seems reasonable. However, that doesn't grant him multple marked kunia at the start of his fights, when that wasn't his original fighting style in the first place.

If he's marking them throughout the fight, that's something completely different and should be expressed.
 

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Why must you go to that length to win arguments?

Regardless, Tobirama can make 3 - 4 clones, and put the hirashin seal on each one, those clones then spread around Sasuke, maybe even tagging some of the sorrounding area. not to mention by making clones he has duplicated his kunai (that's just how this manga works) ...

In any case, you have a Tobirama with several locational options to FTG towards in case Sasuke tries to attack him...And considering each clone can utilize FTG, this match is a stalemate...

As I said before, if Sasuke tries to go on his hawk, it leaves him vunerable to Suiryudan's and his pressurized water shots

Just wondering, Lets say using clones does indeed duplicate his kunai, If that clones gets hit and "poofs", Would the clones kunai still remain for would they vanish along with he clone.
 
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