Tobirama vs Minato

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Restrictions: Minato doesnt have access to Kurama , both are also alive. Tobirama does have access to Edo Tensei

Honestly I believe that Tobirama can beat Minato. He is stronger, smarter, has the same speed as Minato ( Instant speed= Instant Speed ) , is more versatile and has better stamina than Minato
 

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With Edo Tensei Tobirama definitely wins
 

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Everyone thinks Tobirama but my money is on Minato. 2 reasons.

1) Minato's Hirashin > Tobirama's Hirashin Tobirama even admitted his was inferior to Minato's

2) Edos can be sealed. Minato is well versed in sealing techs. And what Edo's are Tobirama going to bring to the table honestly? Hashirama? Madara? Does he have them in this fight? If he does then Tobirama wins. If not I don't see Minato having too much trouble slapping a seal on the edos' foreheads with a few Hirashin here and there.

Also...Minato has Sage Mode.

The fight against Tobirama himself though would be very high difficulty.
 
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Everyone thinks Tobirama but my money is on Minato. 2 reasons.

1) Minato's Hirashin > Tobirama's Hirashin Tobirama even admitted his was inferior to Minato's

2) Edos can be sealed. Minato is well versed in sealing techs. And what Edo's are Tobirama going to bring to the table honestly? Hashirama? Madara? Does he have them in this fight? If he does then Tobirama wins. If not I don't see Minato having too much trouble slapping a seal on the edos' foreheads with a few Hirashin here and there.

The fight against Tobirama himself though would be very high difficulty.

Idk about all of that Minato and Tobirama have the same speed. Minato's Flying Thunder God is the same speed as Tobirama's Flying Thunder God. in the War arc, Tobirama shows to why he is better than Minato. His reflexes and speed is far better than Minato
 

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Restrictions: Minato doesnt have access to Kurama , both are also alive. Tobirama does have access to Edo Tensei

Honestly I believe that Tobirama can beat Minato. He is stronger, smarter, has the same speed as Minato ( Instant speed= Instant Speed ) , is more versatile and has better stamina than Minato

^What he said. And yes Tobirama wins.

With Edo Tensei Tobirama definitely wins

Tobirama even without Edo Tensei , can still beat minato easy

Idk about all of that Minato and Tobirama have the same speed. Minato's Flying Thunder God is the same speed as Tobirama's Flying Thunder God. in the War arc, Tobirama shows to why he is better than Minato. His reflexes and speed is far better than Minato

You're a complete idiot if you think Minato and Tobirama have the same speed.

Raikage (neither) ever mentioned that fool Tobirama once and if he did he obvious was nothing compared to Minato being praised as highly. The third feared the fourth, the most hyped shinobi with said feats defeated both edo tensei tobirama and hashirama with just three clones.

Minato's FTG > Tobirama's

Minato's reflexes > Tobirama's

Minato's speed > Tobirama's

Tobirama admitted superiority to Minato in almost every way in the war. You're going solely off jutsu and said hype. You people disgust me.

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Only thing Tobirama did was create multiple jutsu's.. orochimaru is a thousand times smarter than tobirama and the third picked Minato over Orochimaru and even stepped down while IN HIS PRIME to give Minato the hokage chair.

Tobirama only got it because he was hashi's brother... he's such washed up trash and did a horrible job too
 

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Actually, Tobirama's reflexes were illustrated to be even greater than KCM Minato's. He reacted to Juubito while everyone else gawked in amazement and intercepted a TSB before KCM Minato could even move his arm. Minato has the superior applications of Hiraishin, but Tobirama certainly has greater reactions than Minato; this is essentially what makes this battle worthy of debating.
 

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By feats Minato and even by hype alive Tobirama couldnt offer any special hype that makes him step above Minato in battle.
 

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Restrictions: Minato doesnt have access to Kurama , both are also alive. Tobirama does have access to Edo Tensei

Honestly I believe that Tobirama can beat Minato. He is stronger, smarter, has the same speed as Minato ( Instant speed= Instant Speed ) , is more versatile and has better stamina than Minato

They are equally strong without edo tensei and edo is almost useless is this battle unless it's some strong edo.
Again in intellect department, they are more or less equals with minato having an edge, tobirama is more knowledgeable, not battle smart.
Minato is faster on foot but that is nullified due to ftg.
They are again equal in versatility, tobirama has water release while minato also has 3 chakra natures by databook but even without that minato matches tobirama with marked kunais and more ftg techniques like S/T barrier. And more marked kunais can be decisive factor in this battle.
Minato has chakra reserves >= tobirama since he had SM while tobirama doesn't.

Reactions are also more or less equal, tobirama having a slight edge and because of that it's a 50/50 battle. Can go either way, whoever strikes first. Or minato with SM can win.
 

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You're a complete idiot if you think Minato and Tobirama have the same speed.

Raikage (neither) ever mentioned that fool Tobirama once and if he did he obvious was nothing compared to Minato being praised as highly. The third feared the fourth, the most hyped shinobi with said feats defeated both edo tensei tobirama and hashirama with just three clones.
Lol....bro just lol...

Minato's FTG > Tobirama's

Minato's reflexes > Tobirama's

Minato's speed > Tobirama's

Tobirama admitted superiority to Minato in almost every way in the war. You're going solely off jutsu and said hype. You people disgust me.

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Only thing Tobirama did was create multiple jutsu's.. orochimaru is a thousand times smarter than tobirama and the third picked Minato over Orochimaru and even stepped down while IN HIS PRIME to give Minato the hokage chair.

Tobirama only got it because he was hashi's brother... he's such washed up trash and did a horrible job too
Lol bro....orochimaru was picked before minato......the only reason saratobi choose minato because orochimaru was doing experiments.....
 
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You're a complete idiot if you think Minato and Tobirama have the same speed.

Raikage (neither) ever mentioned that fool Tobirama once and if he did he obvious was nothing compared to Minato being praised as highly. The third feared the fourth, the most hyped shinobi with said feats defeated both edo tensei tobirama and hashirama with just three clones.

Minato's FTG > Tobirama's

Minato's reflexes > Tobirama's

Minato's speed > Tobirama's

Tobirama admitted superiority to Minato in almost every way in the war. You're going solely off jutsu and said hype. You people disgust me.

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Only thing Tobirama did was create multiple jutsu's.. orochimaru is a thousand times smarter than tobirama and the third picked Minato over Orochimaru and even stepped down while IN HIS PRIME to give Minato the hokage chair.

Tobirama only got it because he was hashi's brother... he's such washed up trash and did a horrible job too

This guy is a huge retard. I never said anything about speed also shuushin and s/t are two different types of transportation. ftg or shuushin isn't my reason on why Tobirama beats Minato you stupid fapboy.
 

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Only edo tobirama has possible access to is harashima which is a imminent win
 
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Actually, Tobirama's reflexes were illustrated to be even greater than KCM Minato's. He reacted to Juubito while everyone else gawked in amazement and intercepted a TSB before KCM Minato could even move his arm. Minato has the superior applications of Hiraishin, but Tobirama certainly has greater reactions than Minato; this is essentially what makes this battle worthy of debating.

Exactly ^
 
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They are equally strong without edo tensei and edo is almost useless is this battle unless it's some strong edo.
Again in intellect department, they are more or less equals with minato having an edge, tobirama is more knowledgeable, not battle smart.
Minato is faster on foot but that is nullified due to ftg.
They are again equal in versatility, tobirama has water release while minato also has 3 chakra natures by databook but even without that minato matches tobirama with marked kunais and more ftg techniques like S/T barrier. And more marked kunais can be decisive factor in this battle.
Minato has chakra reserves >= tobirama since he had SM while tobirama doesn't.

Reactions are also more or less equal, tobirama having a slight edge and because of that it's a 50/50 battle. Can go either way, whoever strikes first. Or minato with SM can win.

Minato does not have a bigger chakra reserve than Tobirama are you dumb?
 
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Listen Idk why people still think Minato is better when clearly Tobirama is better. Tobirama pretty much wins this match easy . Out of the two, Tobirama is more experienced , more intelligent, has better reflexes, has more stamina, bigger chakra reserves, a larger life force, is a better sensory type than Minato, has a more versatile arsenal than Minato and also has equal speed to Minato ( they are equal in speed but thanks to Tobirama's skill and natural reflexes , he was shown to be faster than Minato in the War Arc ) . For some reason, many of yall love to overly hype up Minato's speed when in reality it is not better than Tobirama's. Minato was able to dodge the Raikage's fastest attack but couldnt even dodge a couple of attacks from Juubito whereas Tobirama on the other hand, was able to not only react but counter-attack Juubito on multiple occasions. Not to mention he was also able to get that Truth-Seeking Ball bomb off Minato's shoulder all before Minato could even touch it. AND lets not forget that Minato, the so called "fastest" , was also in KCM, a form that boosts every single attribute of the user INCLUDING their speed, sensing and reflexes. Minato has no excuses for his sloppy performance during the War Arc, literally every other Hokage outperformed him on the battlefield .
 
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