[VS] Tobirama vs Mei

Who wins?

  • Tobirama

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • Mei

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Mei wins with Tsunade's help

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Tobirama wins even if you add Tsunade and all of her apprentices

    Votes: 7 46.7%

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Shura

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Like she got Susanoo sword'd or Kusanagi'd?

Are we going to be biased now and say that piercing = slashing, therefore Tsunade survives Suidanha? Or should we wait until you actually realize that different types of attacks exist?
 

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The Kage-Bunshin gets melted and Tobirama gets knowledge on how the Mist works. Not that it wouldn't be obvious from the start. You all are implying how Mei will put up her Mist from the start and will have the first move. Who are you to say that Tobirama will stand watching there? He won't just simply let her gain an advantage over him as soon as he sees the mist spreading, absolutely nothing stops Tobirama from simply slicing her into half with his Suiton considering how fast he can activate it.

Or what stops Tobirama from ending this with a blitz? He isn't someone who would prolong the battle so absolutely nothing stops him from doing a blitz and killing her.And like Kaaant said, Suiton would get rid of the Mist and he surely won't be caught off-guard due to his sensory capabilities.
How would it be obvious from the start that the mist is acidic? The acid mist is one mei's signature moves and takes little to no time to activate[ ][ ]. Now assuming she knows who tobirama is she knows he is a deadly opponent and wouldnt waste time and simply use her deadliest techniques. Ok let's go with your Idea, while mei is activating her mist and spreading it, tobirama counters with his suiton slicing her in half? Yeah I doubt a kage of mei's caliber would allow her self to be sliced in half by his suiton in the beginning of the match. You and me can keep bringing up scenarios to how this would go down but neither know entirely on how it would play out, you said what stops tobirama from blitzing Mei? I brought up the fact that Mei can easily bring up her acid mist which sounds his use of shunshin and ftg.

How exactly is his suiton getting rid of a wide scale mist? please elaborate on that?




Those are the only suiton he has shown unless I am wrong? How are those dispersing a chakra controlled acid mist?

My point is the technique is designed to test out the opponent's strengths. If the Bushin dies - which is unlikely, the chakra and knowledge all flows back to Tobirama, that's my point. Simply cover a wide radius? What good would that do? She's only going to waste chakra, plus a Suiton Jutsu or a paper bomb would disperse a fair amount of it.

What good would forcing Tobirama to back pedal do? How will she finish him off?
The bushin dying the mist is not unlikely it's fact. So tobirama gains the knowledge of how her mist works? then what? What exactly is his plan then? She's only going to waste chakra? It doesnt seem that chakra taxing to me.

A simple suiton isn't going to disperse a chakra controlled mist, that's like saids a suiton would disperse the hidden mist I don't see that happening. Not too mention tobirama has only shown what about 2 suiton unless im mistaken? If my knowledge is correct on them they are not dispersing the mist anytime soon which practically leaves him with ftg and kage bushins, any kunai thrown towards the mist get's melted along with any kage bushins.
 

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I can tell, just by how the blades connected with Tsunade.

I wasn't talking about that. I'm talking about

@AC

Different attacks or not, Tsunade can still tank it. The ninjas are more durable then the trees.
 

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Tobirama is faster than Mei in all aspects.
 

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It's pretty clear tobirama out classes Mei but it's simple fact that her jutsu are deadly that's it.

anyways I would go with tobirama in the end due to the type of man he is so AC there is no need to reply to me.
 

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The bushin dying the mist is not unlikely it's fact. So tobirama gains the knowledge of how her mist works? then what? What exactly is his plan then? She's only going to waste chakra? It doesnt seem that chakra taxing to me.

A simple suiton isn't going to disperse a chakra controlled mist, that's like saids a suiton would disperse the hidden mist I don't see that happening. Not too mention tobirama has only shown what about 2 suiton unless im mistaken? If my knowledge is correct on them they are not dispersing the mist anytime soon which practically leaves him with ftg and kage bushins, any kunai thrown towards the mist get's melted along with any kage bushins.

With his speed and the possibility of him implementing a paper bomb, Suiton techniques or simply Hirashining out of there, I'm doubtful.

How does she block Suidanha while she produces the mist? How does Mei attack from there? If she or Tobirama use a Suiton Jutsu then it will disperse the mist - meaning there was no point in the first place.

And lol; you can speculate all you want, it's still going to waste chakra.

You think a gas can maintain it's presence when another material enters it's space? What, do they phase though each other? Please, even then a paper bomb would do the job.
 

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With his speed and the possibility of him implementing a paper bomb, Suiton techniques or simply Hirashining out of there, I'm doubtful.

How does she block Suidanha while she produces the mist? How does Mei attack from there? If she or Tobirama use a Suiton Jutsu then it will disperse the mist - meaning there was no point in the first place.

And lol; you can speculate all you want, it's still going to waste chakra.

You think a gas can maintain it's presence when another material enters it's space? What, do they phase though each other? Please, even then a paper bomb would do the job.

I mean I just said I give it to tobirama but I guess you posted this before I said that? Anyway's Mei can change the ph levels of her mist to the extremes so one second being in the mist can mean GG. Paper bombs are made out of paper, if they come into contact with the mist they get melted, it would be a wasted effort.

How does she block his suiton while producing the mist? Erm she moves out the way? She is that fodder nor that stupid to stand there while a incoming suiton is coming. How does Mei attack from their? what do you mean? After she evades tobirama suiton? Follow up with lava globs? whatever she fees to do. Of course it's going to use more chakra but Im just saying in my view it isnt as much but whatever.

Again how is any of tobirama's suiton dispersing a chakra controlled mist? I don't see that happening not too mention even if it did the mist simply reforms it isnt that hard. And thats if his suiton can cover all of the mist considering it would have a large radius. And she can always produce more without forming a hand seal but just simply blowing it out her mouth[ ]
 

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@Charlie. Tobirama is a sensor who will know of the mist's presence as soon as it's released. Why is it obvious that it's acidic? Take a look at your . A mist of chakra that leaves melting marks on nearby objects such as the walls, ground, rock or the bridge in this case? Someone of Tobirama's intelligence will have no trouble realizing how the Mist works. Then there's the fact that this mist has absolutely no way of catching someone as fast as Tobirama.

Mei might know that Tobirama is dangerous, but she still lacks knowledge on him so him being capable of releasing fast severing waves such as Suidanha or small extremely fast Suiton Bullets are completely out of her knowledge on him. She won't expect absolutely none of it. You can bring up the rank if you wish, but it does not mean anything to me. Deidara, a shinobi that is Kage rank and is levels above Mei in tactics, foot speed, reactions and fighting skills in general almost gone done in by a blitz. There is nothing that says Mei would simply know of Tobirama's quick Suiton and counter it in time just because she is ''Kage'' caliber.

You are implying how Mei can bring up the mist before Tobirama reacts or blitzes? She is levels under Tobirama when it comes to both speed and reaction. Once again, Deidara is levels above her and could certainly create his birds or bombs faster than Mei could create her mist. <----- Almost got done in by a blitz. Twice. Tobirama himself is faster than the Sandaime Raikage as explained . Nothing stops Tobirama from using a tactic such as quickly going around the mist and hitting Mei from behind much like Ay did against Sasuke here;

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It does not matter if you think that Mei's Mist activation is quick as she hasn't been capable of even reacting to simple Katons from Madara; Her reacting to Tobirama's speed is doubtful. As for the Suiton getting rid of the Mist, it will get rid of the Mist around Tobirama which is enough for him to take down Mei, but doesn't matter either way since a paper bomb would be more successful due to being capable of not only getting rid of the mist, but creating a smoke cloud that Tobirama can use to hide his movements from Mei.

Different attacks or not, Tsunade can still tank it. The ninjas are more durable then the trees.

You'll have to give me proof of that as the name of the technique itself implies how it could sever a human. Simply saying that Tsunade is more durable than a few branches won't do the trick as that same Suiton cut through three bigger branches much like a knife would do against butter.

anyways I would go with tobirama in the end due to the type of man he is so AC there is no need to reply to me.

I already did. |:
 
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I mean I just said I give it to tobirama but I guess you posted this before I said that? Anyway's Mei can change the ph levels of her mist to the extremes so one second being in the mist can mean GG. Paper bombs are made out of paper, if they come into contact with the mist they get melted, it would be a wasted effort.

How does she block his suiton while producing the mist? Erm she moves out the way? She is that fodder nor that stupid to stand there while a incoming suiton is coming. How does Mei attack from their? what do you mean? After she evades tobirama suiton? Follow up with lava globs? whatever she fees to do. Of course it's going to use more chakra but Im just saying in my view it isnt as much but whatever.

Again how is any of tobirama's suiton dispersing a chakra controlled mist? I don't see that happening not too mention even if it did the mist simply reforms it isnt that hard. And thats if his suiton can cover all of the mist considering it would have a large radius. And she can always produce more without forming a hand seal but just simply blowing it out her mouth[X]

And Mei's just going to do that instantly? Irrelivent as the Kage Bushin would still discover the basic mechanics of the technique.

So you're telling me Mei has the capacity to dodge whilst performing her Jutsu? What speed feats does she have? Where will she go? Not only an I doubtful she can dodge it, but if she were to dodge it she's going to have to exit the mist, leaving herself vulnerable to attack from Tobirama.

And again, a gas will not maintain it's structure against something solid or liquid. It will disperse.

Your whole argument is founded on the basis that Mei will try to outlast Tobirama through the mist, I've clearly explained how that won't happen.
 

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Tobirama wins both scenarios, second high difficulty.
And Edo Tensei is not hype, it's a feat.
 

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Tobirama has no knowledge the acid mist/boil mist, for all we know he wold run straight into it.

Although logic saids tobirama is superior, having no intel on mei's jutsu is deadly.

Match can go either way.

One could say he would sense the different chakra nature in the mist once the PH levels are influenced. Then a simple sunshin is all that is needed. But most likely he will use a clone at the start of the match.
 

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Mei wins high difficulty
 
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