Tobirama vs Kisame

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Tobirama vs Kisame

Location: Valley of the end

Intel: Both have full intel

Restrictions: Edo Tensei

Mindset: Bloodlusted

Kisame has Samehada

Scenario 1: Alive Tobirama vs Kisame with Samehada

Scenario 2: Edo Tobirama vs Kisame with Samehada (Kisame has sealing tags)
 

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Kisame wins both scenario's...

Tobirama strongest offense here is a Kunai and Water slicing suition tech... That won't be enough to put down Samehada infused Kisame so Kisame wins.​
 

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Not sure.
Tobirama is the better water user
Kisame has the best water jutsu different from the rest
Tobirama is extremely fast which is a problem though
And Kisame is a big shark of a powerhouse.
I'm lost and I can't find the answer to this battle.
 

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Logically, Tobirama should be stronger than Kisame, who one-shotted Izuna, but Izuna is a fodder so that doesn't really matter. Going by current feats or feats we have seen from Kisame and Tobirama, Kisame wins.

Tobirama is practically featless except for Hiraishingiri. Hype would tell you that Tobirama would win, but feats are telling me that Kisame would win. Tobirama doesn't really use Hiraishin like Minato so it won't be as effective as when Minato uses it. If he can tag things like Minato and use FTG Kunai like Minato, then he has a good shot at being able to win, but that's not the case.

Suiton isn't effective against Kisame since Kisame can use larger, more effective scale suiton attacks. He also has his dangerous sword, Samehada which can absorb any ninjutsu that Tobirama decides to use. Kisame also has his large dome thing that Tobirama has no way out of, unless he throws hiraishin outside of the dome, but since Kisame has intel on that, he will just move the dome wherever the kunai or tag goes.

Tobirama needs something else outside of just Suiton to actually inflict damage on him and beat him, so unless you include Edo Tenshi, he cannot win because Kisame has too many weapons and advantages on someone like Tobirama.

Kisame wins both scenarios, especially the first one.
 

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Tobirama wins this..He has every counter there is.
 

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the first scenario could go eithe way
However tobirama certainly wins the second scenario
 

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Tobirama would slash Kisame's throat.
 

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The only issue in the first scenario is actually putting down Kisame, since he can heal from most injuries dealt to him. Tobirama would have to hit him with a well placed Sword Slash that would kill him immediately.

The second scenario is an easy win for Tobirama though, since he can use his own body for Gojo Kibakufuda. He regenerates and Kisame dies a terrible death.

Can go either way in S1 depending on if Tobirama can kill him with a sword, S2 is a mid diff win.
 

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I think alive Tobirama wins a neutral scenario.

he can blow up waterdome & kill kisame w/ his sword & sui'ton, simply becase of his speed & clones. He is also proficient in sealing...

the biggest difference between them, as artificial as it may be, is the superiority of kage bunshin over mizubunshin.
elemental clones split unevenly & can't use shunshin or large/varied jutsu :shrug
 

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Tobirama... Kisame is not in his league...


PS: Samehada might switch sides, since Tobirama has more chakra.
 

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The only issue in the first scenario is actually putting down Kisame, since he can heal from most injuries dealt to him. Tobirama would have to hit him with a well placed Sword Slash that would kill him immediately.

The second scenario is an easy win for Tobirama though, since he can use his own body for Gojo Kibakufuda. He regenerates and Kisame dies a terrible death.

Can go either way in S1 depending on if Tobirama can kill him with a sword, S2 is a mid diff win.
Yeah this basically U_U
 

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S1 goes to Kisame, S2 goes to Tobirama.
 

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The only issue in the first scenario is actually putting down Kisame, since he can heal from most injuries dealt to him. Tobirama would have to hit him with a well placed Sword Slash that would kill him immediately.

He can aim for his head. Like A and B did.​
 

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Kisame stomps horridly in the first scenario he can defeat Tobirama & Minato together let alone tobirama

he loses the second tho
 

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Tobirama would slash Kisame's throat.

Samehada regeneration lets kisame laugh it off and bisect tobirama Lol

OP: Kisame mid diff. Tobirama is nothing in his arsenal to put down kisame
 

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Its a funny match up. Kisame wins by feats, but Tobirama has been portrayed as stronger.​
 

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Samehada regeneration lets kisame laugh it off and bisect tobirama Lol

OP: Kisame mid diff. Tobirama is nothing in his arsenal to put down kisame

What regeneration? He has healing, not regeneration.
Kisame can bisect now? Lol

He can only heal as long as he's with Samehada. Having full intel and nearly the same speed as Minato i don't see Tobirama having trouble stealing Samehada soon after the match starts, before they fuse.
 

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What regeneration? He has healing, not regeneration.
Kisame can bisect now? Lol

He can only heal as long as he's with Samehada. Having full intel and nearly the same speed as Minato i don't see Tobirama having trouble stealing Samehada soon after the match starts, before they fuse.

I'm pretty sure kisame can cut someone in half with samehada. And how would tobirama steal samehada without getting his hand impaled AND not having the handle just squirm back to kisame's hand
 

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Logically, Tobirama should be stronger than Kisame, who one-shotted Izuna, but Izuna is a fodder so that doesn't really matter. Going by current feats or feats we have seen from Kisame and Tobirama, Kisame wins.

Tobirama is practically featless except for Hiraishingiri. Hype would tell you that Tobirama would win, but feats are telling me that Kisame would win. Tobirama doesn't really use Hiraishin like Minato so it won't be as effective as when Minato uses it. If he can tag things like Minato and use FTG Kunai like Minato, then he has a good shot at being able to win, but that's not the case.

Suiton isn't effective against Kisame since Kisame can use larger, more effective scale suiton attacks. He also has his dangerous sword, Samehada which can absorb any ninjutsu that Tobirama decides to use. Kisame also has his large dome thing that Tobirama has no way out of, unless he throws hiraishin outside of the dome, but since Kisame has intel on that, he will just move the dome wherever the kunai or tag goes.

Tobirama needs something else outside of just Suiton to actually inflict damage on him and beat him, so unless you include Edo Tenshi, he cannot win because Kisame has too many weapons and advantages on someone like Tobirama.

Kisame wins both scenarios, especially the first one.


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