Tobirama vs Hidan, Asuma, Shikamaru and Temari.

who wins?

  • Tobirama low diff

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • Tobirama mid diff

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • Tobirama high diff

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Team 2 low diff

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Team 2 mid diff

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Team 2 high diff

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • Total voters
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WolfHaley

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As if the Kage Bushin is needed. But lol at this faction of NBers that never give Tobirama any ground in vs debates. It's always the same people.

^^^ making a bunch of shadow clones is useless in battle if you don't have a big enough pool to make it worth while.

Let's say you have 200 units of chakra and your most conservative technique takes 35 units of chakra.
By making 10 clones*, you know have 200/10 = 20 units of chakra across every clone while each person(clone and original) is 1/10 of your overall strength. You can't even use your weakest technique anymore and you're now a bunch of weaklings instead of 1 strong person.

That's why multi shadow clone is only useful for someone like naruto; His chakra pool is so massive that he can still use all his techniques after making thousands of clones. And, that's why no one in the series makes more than 2-3 clones at a time - it would become pointless.

*EDIT: Number should be 9 seeing as you have to also count the original user. i.e 9 clones + 1 = 200/10 = 20
Trying to add real life logic to this fictional manga doesn't work. Read the first chapter for god's sake.
 

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^ Did he make more during the actual fights? It's obvious that he cannot make a lot of clones as you are speculating. You cannot compare Mokuton Bushins to Kage Bushins. Until the manga shows otherwise, all of it is speculation.
 

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^ Hashirama specifically stated that 'because of the barrier that's his best'. You have to remember what Tobirama is stating isn't comparable. Then we have further proof that he didn't make more than one clone for fighting. Let's not ignore all factors and assume on our own that he can make so many clones.

Hashirama's clones are not shadow clones, they are Mokuton Bushins - an extension of his Mokuton Techniques. Not a valid comparison.
What kid of logic it is? Are u being serious ? So holding the barrier won't effect Tobirama because he didn't said that those clones are his limit because barrier? he didn't used multiple clones because he don't need them not because he can't use them,what is the point of using more clones if it is not useful?

^ Did he make more during the actual fights? It's obvious that he cannot make a lot of clones as you are speculating. You cannot compare Mokuton Bushins to Kage Bushins. Until the manga shows otherwise, all of it is speculation.
Lmao,he didn't compared mukuton clones with shadowclones,he said he is in sorry state which clearly indicates it is worse than what he can actually do.
 
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Don't remember ever mentioning the Mokuton Bushin...

If even a fodder Shinobi with no name can make twenty shadow clones, and Kakashi with his terrible stamina reserves of part one making so many you can't see the end of them, as well as day one naruto; I don't see how anyone can say to me with a straight face that Tobirama can't.

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What kid of logic it is? Are u being serious ? So holding the barrier won't effect Tobirama because he didn't said that those clones are his limit because barrier? he didn't used multiple clones because he don't need them not because he can't use them,what is the point of using more clones if it is not useful?

Lmao,he didn't compared mukuton clones with shadowclones,he said he is in sorry state which clearly indicates it is worse than what he can actually do.
Look at other points as well, not just the barrier ones. I have no idea what you are even trying to say in the rest of your post.

@SSJ Veegito

Wasn't replying to you.

Straight-face - he cannot.
 

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Look at other points as well, not just the barrier ones. I have no idea what you are even trying to say in the rest of your post.
No one compared SC to WC as U said in ur post and Tobirama said that he is in sorry state when he made two clones,if u know what it means to be in sorry state then U can understand that 2 clones are not his limit.Two clones are his limit when he is in sorry state not in normal condition.If two clones are his limit as U said then Tobirama must be aware of the fact that his limit is two clones then what is the point of saying "only two clones? if he is aware of that he can't make more than two?
 
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