Tobirama vs 4th Raikage

[Bogard]

Location: Madara vs 5Kages
Restrictions: None
Distance: 25meters
Conditions: Tobirama lost an arm in a previous battle, so he is basically in the same state as his opponent

 

[A v i]

Even if Tobirama has his arm, Raikage would blitz him as Lawd Tobirama has no prepared markings.

 

[ARGUS]

Tobirama still wins this,,
-with his FTG & KB he will always outspeed A even if the latter is in V2, thus resulting A in getting marked and allowing Tobirama multiple ways to attack A with,, Hirashingiri to the neck would end A

 

[Apêx1]

I'm willing to argue for Tobirama. Could go both ways though.

 

[Touken]

His feat of being able to mark regular kunai has put him above Ay.

 

[Conspirator.]

Raikage wins.

 

[Bogard]

Tobirama still wins this,,
-with his FTG & KB he will always outspeed A even if the latter is in V2, thus resulting A in getting marked and allowing Tobirama multiple ways to attack A with,, Hirashingiri to the neck would end A

IC Raikage punches you and ask questions later. Tobirama on the other hand lacks prepped kunais in order to use FTG effectively. He can't use KB as well considering the fact it needs both arms to be used when Tobirama is missing one in this scenario

 

[Forbidden Tale]

If Water style, Tobirama used can pierce A's armour, than he can win, but if it can't, i don't see him winning, of course if we exclude his Edo body.

 

[ARGUS]

IC Raikage punches you and ask questions later. Tobirama on the other hand lacks prepped kunais in order to use FTG effectively. He can't use KB as well considering the fact it needs both arms to be used when Tobirama is missing one in this scenario

And you seriously think that Tobirama will get blitzed by A,,, who u havnt stated that even starts at V2.
well looking at the mindset he will start at v1, and if ms sasuke kept up with it,, i dont see why tobirama,, who was renowned for his speed,, wont be able to react,,,,

 

[A v i]

:yeah:So we have people that actually belives that Tobirama has a chance with single hand?

 

[Touken]

IC Raikage punches you and ask questions later. Tobirama on the other hand lacks prepped kunais in order to use FTG effectively. He can't use KB as well considering the fact it needs both arms to be used when Tobirama is missing one in this scenario

As soon as he grabs his sword/kunai it's instantly marked. He isn't getting blitzed in the time it takes to put a seal on a piece of his equipment considering Ay has to first go into V2 and that isn't a process that's quicker than Tobirama placing a seal.

 

[A v i]

And you seriously think that Tobirama will get blitzed by A,,, who u havnt stated that even starts at V2. well looking at the mindset he will start at v1, and if ms sasuke kept up with it,, i dont see why tobirama,, who was renowned for his speed,, wont be able to react.

No matter how badly you look at it Tobirama ain't avoiding Ay with shunshin alone regardless of whether it is V1 or V2.

 

[Bogard]

As soon as he grabs his sword/kunai it's instantly marked. He isn't getting blitzed in the time it takes to put a seal on a piece of his equipment considering Ay has to first go into V2 and that isn't a process that's quicker than Tobirama placing a seal.

Let's not act as if it was IC for Tobirama to start with hiraishin tags out especially when he has no knowledge on his opponent. Let's not forget with the lack of prepped kunai, it will take him days to tags things one after the other and use it effectively in battle especially with one arm. And even if he marks his sword, so what? It's not like it's outside his ranged position, so in this case, he won't be capable to evade anything. It's not like A also already has knowledge on hiraishin or could attack him before or after teleportation?

If Water style, Tobirama used can pierce A's armour, than he can win, but if it can't, i don't see him winning, of course if we exclude his Edo body.

Tobirama can't use one handed suitons

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Tobirama can't use one handed suitons

Didn't he used it, to cut God tree?

 

[Touken]

Let's not act as if it was IC for Tobirama to start with hiraishin tags out especially when he has no knowledge on his opponent. Let's not forget with the lack of prepped kunai, it will take him days to tags things one after the other and use it effectively in battle especially with one arm. And even if he marks his sword, so what? It's not like it's outside his ranged position, so in this case, he won't be capable to evade anything. It's not like A also already has knowledge on hiraishin or could attack him before or after teleportation?

It's not IC for Tobirama to mark his kunai/sword? The fact that he did it in the manga and was under no special circumstances to do it shows it was IC. He only needs one marked kunai, nothing more than that. Ay tries to blitz him, he flicks his kunai up, teleports to it and then proceeds to lay the beat down on him. I'm pretty sure Tobirama's smart enough to deduce that a Raiton shroud would increase speed and reactions. If not, then he uses Shadow Clones to figure out Ay's capabilities.

 

[Bogard]

Didn't he used it, to cut God tree?

No

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[Forbidden Tale]

No

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Than it's completely unfair to put him with one hand, you only left him with FTG, even thought A don't have one arm he has all of his Jutsus, since he only use nintai fighting style.

 

[Bogard]

It's not IC for Tobirama to mark his kunai/sword? The fact that he did it in the manga and was under no special circumstances to do it shows it was IC. He only needs one marked kunai, nothing more than that. Ay tries to blitz him, he flicks his kunai up, teleports to it and then proceeds to lay the beat down on him. I'm pretty sure Tobirama's smart enough to deduce that a Raiton shroud would increase speed and reactions. If not, then he uses Shadow Clones to figure out Ay's capabilities.

I said it's not IC for him to start with them. He only uses it when it's actually needed like trying to catch Madara off-guard.

One marked kunai is also not enough since like i've said, he can attack Tobirama before or after teleportation

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Lesser the kunais and lesser are Tobirama's teleport locations and easier it's for A to handle him

He can't use Shadow clones without an arm as well

Than it's completely unfair to put him with one hand, you only left him with FTG, even thought A don't have one arm he has all of his Jutsus, since he only use nintai fighting style.

Unfair? Both lack an arm. Only wanted to see how they would fare in these conditions

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Unfair? Both lack an arm. Only wanted to see how they would fare in these conditions

That does not affect A's fighting style, he use only ninjutsu and genjutsu. For ninjutsu he don't need hand seals unlike Tobirama, plus Tobirama's fighting style is completely focused on ninjutsu with hand seals.

 

[Touken]

I said it's not IC for him to start with them. He only uses it when it's actually needed like trying to catch Madara off-guard.

One marked kunai is also not enough since like i've said, he can attack Tobirama before or after teleportation

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Lesser the kunais and lesser are Tobirama's teleport locations and easier it's for A to handle him

He can't use Shadow clones without an arm as well

Unfair? Both lack an arm. Only wanted to see how they would fare in these conditions

The purpose of using FTG is to catch people off guard. I'm not saying he'd mark all of his kunai and then spread them out as Minato does, no, I was talking about how he'd mark his kunai and keep it with him throughout the battle. He doesn't need to spread them out, since, like I've said before, all he needs to do to avoid Ay's attacks is flick his kunai up, the same way Tobirama outmaneuvered Madara (although it was his intention to kill Madara with the initial attack).

Ay can't get to airborne kunai and he definitely isn't getting to the kunai if Tobirama decides to flick it behind him.