Tobirama the cause of all the problem

[King-Panda]

Madara would have gone bad regardless of Tobirama ws even alive or not. Hshirama is to blam kinda because if he would've killed Madara. No Obito, no edo Madara,no Juubi, no akatsuki, no dead jinjuurikis, and no moon eye plan, no war.

Yahiko made the akatsuki, and my other thread, but above this one, says that Madara is probably a good person

 

[slaton02]

Yahiko made the akatsuki, and my other thread, but above this one, says that Madara is probably a good person

but Madara and Obito did the recuiting and planning. How was he a good person? Out of all the Uchiha he was the only one to act out. Senju lost brothers too but you don't see them trying to rule the world and harm people. So how did Tobirama cause all this? You're acting like he order the Uchiha massacare or something.

 

[Zato]

Yes blame it all on Tobirama.

-40,000 Shinobi dead as result of 4th Ninja War
-Thousands dead after Kyuubi attack on Konoha
-Thousands dead after Bloody Mist era.

Hell lets blame the 3 other wars on Tobirama too. All that rape, pillage, and slaughter. Just blame it on Tobirama.

He's obviously the worst person ever.

Hes not the worst person ever but we can clearly see where Danzou gets his motivation from. Its funny because the 3rd was a lot like Hashirama and Danzou was def following in Tobirama's footsteps.

 

[King-Panda]

but Madara and Obito did the recuiting and planning. How was he a good person? Out of all the Uchiha he was the only one to act out. Senju lost brothers too but you don't see them trying to rule the world and harm people. So how did Tobirama cause all this? You're acting like he order the Uchiha massacare or something.

I explain it in that thread. Remember Itachi case? Hmmmm

 

[Aten]

Y'all act like Tobirama Senju was the only person who didn't trust madara. Remember it took the people of the village to choose their leader. Uchiha clan didn't trust madara. It ain't like Tobirama convince the whole village to not trust madara. Smh nobody didn't trust madara except Hashirama. Oh and last I checked, madara hates Senju as much as Tobirama not trusting the Uchiha. Idiots. Y'all didn't understand nothing about the chapter. It's not Tobirama's fault the world is messed up. It's like y'all trying to justify what madara brought upon the world right by using Tobirama for not trusting the Uchiha.

 

[King-Panda]

Y'all act like Tobirama Senju was the only person who didn't trust madara. Remember it took the people of the village to choose their leader. Uchiha clan didn't trust madara. It ain't like Tobirama convince the whole village to not trust madara. Smh nobody didn't trust madara except Hashirama. Oh and last I checked, madara hates Senju as much as Tobirama not trusting the Uchiha. Idiots. Y'all didn't understand nothing about the chapter. It's not Tobirama's fault the world is messed up. It's like y'all trying to justify what madara brought upon the world right by using Tobirama for not trusting the Uchiha.

bang bang skeet skeet, why you be talking like this?

They wanted Hashi as leader because he was the one insisting on it and proposed it....

Madara started hating the senju because of tobirama mainly... read the thread above this one

 

[Aten]

Hes not the worst person ever but we can clearly see where Danzou gets his motivation from. Its funny because the 3rd was a lot like Hashirama and Danzou was def following in Tobirama's footsteps.

Danzo is not even apart team Tobirama. And Tobirama never train danzo

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

Or he was the solution to the Uchihas.

UMMM remind me again were are the Senju as well, It's funny he was so worried about uchiha were is his clan now.

 

[S A G E]

Madara and his insane squad is the cause of all problem.
Rather than be put with the konoha police, they should be put into an asylum.
Tobirama is the solution.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Yes blame it all on Tobirama.

-40,000 Shinobi dead as result of 4th Ninja War
-Thousands dead after Kyuubi attack on Konoha
-Thousands dead after Bloody Mist era.

Hell lets blame the 3 other wars on Tobirama too. All that rape, pillage, and slaughter. Just blame it on Tobirama.

He's obviously the worst person ever.

All of them^

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

but Madara and Obito did the recuiting and planning. How was he a good person? Out of all the Uchiha he was the only one to act out. Senju lost brothers too but you don't see them trying to rule the world and harm people. So how did Tobirama cause all this? You're acting like he order the Uchiha massacare or something.

You guys kill me, and it's the same people who say sasuke isn't in the right for wanting to avenge his clan.
But tobirama can suppress his clan
and
Danzo can destroy it
may if y'all stop d#ckriding him so hard and actually see how much of a tool he is then, you will see he was wrong.
Madara rightfully should have been 2nd hokage, he named kohona
Tobirama is a sideline type of n#gga, his character only proves how jealous he was over Hashirama and Madara's friendship

 

[Aten]

bang bang skeet skeet, why you be talking like this?

They wanted Hashi as leader because he was the one insisting on it and proposed it....

Madara started hating the senju because of tobirama mainly... read the thread above this one

No he hated the Senju because they took his family. Your thread can't Tobirama is the cause of all of this. That's stupid. Just because Tobirama didn't trust the Uchiha doesn't mean it's his fault for what madara did. It sound like you trying to justify what madara did to the shinobi world. Smh

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

Yes tobirama killed madara 's brother

 

[King-Panda]

No he hated the Senju because they took his family. Your thread can't Tobirama is the cause of all of this. That's stupid. Just because Tobirama didn't trust the Uchiha doesn't mean it's his fault for what madara did. It sound like you trying to justify what madara did to the shinobi world. Smh

I said why I said it.... Based on his actions and influence he had on Madara and the Uchiha. Because of him they wanted the coup d'etat, putting one of the two founder clans in the corner like that

You guys kill me, and it's the same people who say sasuke isn't in the right for wanting to avenge his clan.
But tobirama can suppress his clan
and
Danzo can destroy it
may if y'all stop d#ckriding him so hard and actually see how much of a tool he is then, you will see he was wrong.
Madara rightfully should have been 2nd hokage, he named kohona
Tobirama is a sideline type of n#gga, his character only proves how jealous he was over Hashirama and Madara's friendship

This guy knows stufff!!

Madara and his insane squad is the cause of all problem.
Rather than be put with the konoha police, they should be put into an asylum.
Tobirama is the solution.

wow you don't need a tobirama avatar to see you are a tobirama fanboy ahah! That is wrong, put your self in the uchiha shoes

Danzo is not even apart team Tobirama. And Tobirama never train danzo

I swear he was? Tobirama nominated hiruzen hokage in front of danzo

 

[Aten]

I said why I said it.... Based on his actions and influence he had on Madara and the Uchiha. Because of him they wanted the coup d'etat, putting one of the two founder clans in the corner like that



This guy knows stufff!!



wow you don't need a tobirama avatar to see you are a tobirama fanboy ahah! That is wrong, put your self in the uchiha shoes



I swear he was? Tobirama nominated hiruzen hokage in front of danzo

Ok the coup d'etat thing was his fault. Every body knows that. Even the manga clearly reveals that. But you can't say the everything that was brought upon ninja by madara was Tobirama's fault for simply not trusting madara. That's stupid. Your thread can't support that.

Look it up. Danzo not apart of team Tobirama. Danzo team join Tobirama team on the mission but danzo never was on team Tobirama

 

[drknght]

They were one of the two clans that found Konoha, and Tobirama put them in a corner, and gave this police thing just to keep them busy and pretend they have something to do....
They could see that, therefore the will to do the coup d'etat!

Duh...........

 

[slaton02]

You guys kill me, and it's the same people who say sasuke isn't in the right for wanting to avenge his clan.
But tobirama can suppress his clan
and
Danzo can destroy it
may if y'all stop d#ckriding him so hard and actually see how much of a tool he is then, you will see he was wrong.
Madara rightfully should have been 2nd hokage, he named kohona
Tobirama is a sideline type of n#gga, his character only proves how jealous he was over Hashirama and Madara's friendship

Don't put me in a category, I never said Sasuke wasn't in right to avenge his clan I have called Danzo a scumbag for wiping out Uchihas Tobirama did nothing close to that he had a problem with 1 guy and even that guys own clan turn their backs so go boo hoo to some dumb n**ga that can't read between the lines

 

[Zato]

Danzo is not even apart team Tobirama. And Tobirama never train danzo

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You were saying? You honestly believe Tobirama didn't pass down his way of thinking and tactics to Danzou and the 3rd Hokage?Even though the 3rd was a lot more sympathetic to the Uchiha while Danzou followed Tobirama's guideline to the fullest...

 

[CrimsonFire]

I agree for the most part, however we do not know for sure if Tobirama was 100% the one who killed Izuna, Kishi has not clear that up yet or he may skip it one, we don't know yet.

 

[Stark]

He was right to fear the Uchiha, but he went about it the wrong way. I like Tobirama but I like the Uchiha more.