Tobirama the cause of all the problem

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Tobirama clearly dislikes the Uchiha! They were one of the two clans that found Konoha, and Tobirama put them in a corner, and gave this police thing just to keep them busy and pretend they have something to do....
They could see that, therefore the will to do the coup d'etat!


He killed Izuna, causing Madara to suffer a lot...
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He talked in a really negative way about the Uchiha and Madara heard it all. And as he would become Hokage Madara, which loved his clan, feared his clan extermination.

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Has been negligently talking to Sasuke, ignoring the fact that he is an Uchiha, as we don't know what path Sasuke will take yet....
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Is Tobirama the cause of the major problems?

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It can be argued that he is responsible for this. Although, had Madara listened longer, he would have heard that no such thing would have happened. Then he wouldn't have gone crazy!
 

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It can be argued that he is responsible for this. Although, had Madara listened longer, he would have heard that no such thing would have happened. Then he wouldn't have gone crazy!

yes but no one is perfect... I know tobirama is not perfect too, but the negative influence he has had is big
 

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If agree man...
if Tobirama would just shut is dam mouth...nothing of this would have happend...
he deserved it to die by GOld and silver Brothers...that fool is just a douch...i don't hate him but he should have stfu
 

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I do believe Tobirama is one of the sources to this "hate" that breeds within Madara. He got sick of Hashirama telling him what to do XD
 

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He is a biacht. He is the reason Madara left
 

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Tobimaras hatred is kinda understandable since they killed his brothers 5 to 1.
 

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Simple question - No pole - why...
 

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The killing Izuna bit isn't relevant.They was in war for crying out loud, like someone said in a thread that was made an hour ago,Izuna wouldn't hesitate in killing Tobirama.
 

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Tobimaras hatred is kinda understandable since they killed his brothers 5 to 1.
that was war lol, and Tobirama has been talking so much about hatred, it would be very hypocritical for him to talk about the hatred in the uchiha
 

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Tobimaras hatred is kinda understandable since they killed his brothers 5 to 1.
Madara's 5 brothers were also killed by Senju. Also Izuna was killed by Tobirama. your point?
 

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I thought I liked Tobirama, that has changed. He is an ass. Everything is his problem -_-
 

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Yes blame it all on Tobirama.

-40,000 Shinobi dead as result of 4th Ninja War
-Thousands dead after Kyuubi attack on Konoha
-Thousands dead after Bloody Mist era.

Hell lets blame the 3 other wars on Tobirama too. All that rape, pillage, and slaughter. Just blame it on Tobirama.

He's obviously the worst person ever.
 

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He was a d*ck who couldn't move on. If he had just tried to let go of the past, things might have gone differently.
 

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Yes blame it all on Tobirama.

-40,000 Shinobi dead as result of 4th Ninja War
-Thousands dead after Kyuubi attack on Konoha
-Thousands dead after Bloody Mist era.

Hell lets blame the 3 other wars on Tobirama too. All that rape, pillage, and slaughter. Just blame it on Tobirama.

He's obviously the worst person ever.

Well you avatar and signature tells me you like him, where you're a fan or fanboy I don't know, but think about it, he's way too strict , like Danzo, and how can you make an ally if you don't trust them?
 

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Yerh there was finally a chance to create peace, but no, Tobirama had to destroy it with his hatred.
 

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Madara would have gone bad regardless of Tobirama ws even alive or not. Hshirama is to blam kinda because if he would've killed Madara. No Obito, no edo Madara,no Juubi, no akatsuki, no dead jinjuurikis, and no moon eye plan, no war.Even the Uchiha clan no longer trust/followed Madara. Notice he was the only Uchiha to cause problems.

Blaming Tobirama is foolish, he did nothing but be wary about Uchiha's nothing more.
 
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