Tobirama takes down prime Kabuto

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It is my opinion that tobirama can destroy kabuto even if kabuto used edo tensei and DSM altogether.


Tobirama has FTG which is already just as fast or even faster than DSM.

Tobirama can equal the amount of edo tensei zombies that Kabuto does.

Being the suiton master that Tobirama is he will have no problem overpowering Kabuto in that department.


Theres nothing that Kabuto can do without it being countered by Tobirama.

Point of the thread tobirama>>Prime Kabuto
 

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Prime Kabuto has Edo Itachi, Edo Nagato, Edo Sasori, Edo Deidara, Edo Kakuzu, Gin and Kin, Edo Madara, Edo Chiyo, etc. If you don't restrict Edo Tensei, Tobirama gets babyshaked without difficulty. Kabuto can take a nap while Nagato solo's, or Itachi, or Madara, or Gin and Kin can take him again.

Without Edo Tensei, he still loses. Tobirama puts up a medium difficulty fight at best.

- Kabuto has shown the best use of Edo Tensei in the Manga. His Edo Tensei >>>>>>>>>> Tobirama's.
- Tobirama isn't a Suiton master, his Suiton hype is completely fan made and the Manga clearly states that Tobirama's forte was producing Suiton with no water to base his Ninjutsu off of. Compare Tobirama and Kisame's Suiton, you'll see who's the "master".
- There's nothing that can't be countered by Tobirama? How about White Rage..?
 
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First, Kabuto's Sensory skills will help prevent complete death against FTG. but more importantly, even if he is hit, Oral Rebirth saves him.

Kabuto absorbed Suigetsu's DNA making him capable of hydrification: Making Suiton useless. He additionally has Karin's rapid healing ability in case FTG does cut. Even then, he also has Kidomaru's DNA for Iron Skin (Golden Web armor), and Kimmimaru's DNA to harden his bones.


Second, Edo Tensei as used by Tobirama is theoretically useless against Kabuto. While yes they have incredible blast Radiai, Kabuto is a sensor but also an Edo user. Meaning he's going to simply use his enhanced speed to retreat. Tobirama's Eros have nothing other than the suicide bomb. Kabuto's Edo Tensei are more powerful as they have actual abilities and rational thought. If they break the upper half of the edos, they can't self detonate. Also, Tobirama does not have any prepared FTG Kunai. Even if he did, Kabuto has attacks to destroy them.



Tobirama with a few explosives can't hold out against Kabuto's Edo Tensei army. Besides, the number of edos Tobirama can make has never been clarified. To Sasuke they can equalize is a fallacy.



Tobirama is still susceptible to White Rage and the Sound Genjutsu. With infinite Senjutsu collection (Juugo) he almost has infinite stamina in some regards.

Also... You did mention PRIME Kabuto meaning he had Madara and Itachi as well. Though he'd have to simplify Madara.



BASICALLY... This is the match you've said Tobirama wins...


Tobirama, Undetermined amount of suicide bombs

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DSM Kabuto, Madara, Itachi, Nagato, Kakuzu, Deidara, Sasori, Hanzo, Chiyo, Sai's Brother, Kimmimaru, Mist Sensor, Hizashi, Ginkaku, Kinkaku (people he had trouble with already), Asuma, Dan, Zabuza, Haku, Pakura, Gaki, Kushimaru, Jinpachi, Ringo, Kisame's sensei, Mangetsu, other Mist Swordsmen I can't remember the names of, Magnet release using Cloud Edo, 3rd Raikage, Muu, Trollkage, 4th Kazekage, Hanzo, and dozens of other notable Shinobi



Kabuto has numbers, Elemental advantage, Intel advantage, scale advantage.



Kabuto defeats Tobirama.
 
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debatable, but at the moment, even with the knowledge we know about Tobirama, I don't think he would be able to defeat Kabuto unless he uses Edo tensei also. Although it is not to Kabutos extent, the way Tobirama acquires knowledge so quickly i would bet that he can duplicate Kabuto's style of Edo Tensei within the fight, Maybe even bringing back even more powerful Shinobi than what we've seen.
 

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First, Kabuto's Sensory skills will help prevent complete death against FTG. but more importantly, even if he is hit, Oral Rebirth saves him.

Kabuto absorbed Suigetsu's DNA making him capable of hydrification: Making Suiton useless. He additionally has Karin's rapid healing ability in case FTG does cut. Even then, he also has Kidomaru's DNA for Iron Skin (Golden Web armor), and Kimmimaru's DNA to harden his bones.


Second, Edo Tensei as used by Tobirama is theoretically useless against Kabuto. While yes they have incredible blast Radiai, Kabuto is a sensor but also an Edo user. Meaning he's going to simply use his enhanced speed to retreat. Tobirama's Eros have nothing other than the suicide bomb. Kabuto's Edo Tensei are more powerful as they have actual abilities and rational thought. If they break the upper half of the edos, they can't self detonate. Also, Tobirama does not have any prepared FTG Kunai. Even if he did, Kabuto has attacks to destroy them.



Tobirama with a few explosives can't hold out against Kabuto's Edo Tensei army. Besides, the number of edos Tobirama can make has never been clarified. To Sasuke they can equalize is a fallacy.



Tobirama is still susceptible to White Rage and the Sound Genjutsu. With infinite Senjutsu collection (Juugo) he almost has infinite stamina in some regards.

Also... You did mention PRIME Kabuto meaning he had Madara and Itachi as well. Though he'd have to simplify Madara.



BASICALLY... This is the match you've said Tobirama wins...


Tobirama, Undetermined amount of suicide bombs

Vs


DSM Kabuto, Madara, Itachi, Nagato, Kakuzu, Deidara, Sasori, Hanzo, Chiyo, Sai's Brother, Kimmimaru, Mist Sensor, Hizashi, Ginkaku, Kinkaku (people he had trouble with already), Asuma, Dan, Zabuza, Haku, Pakura, Gaki, Kushimaru, Jinpachi, Ringo, Kisame's sensei, Mangetsu, other Mist Swordsmen I can't remember the names of, Magnet release using Cloud Edo, 3rd Raikage, Muu, Trollkage, 4th Kazekage, Hanzo, and dozens of other notable Shinobi



Kabuto has numbers, Elemental advantage, Intel advantage, scale advantage.



Kabuto defeats Tobirama.
Ok ok you win. Wow you really went off on this one didn't ya

*pauses for a sec* . . . . . . Tobirama still solos *runs away*
 

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debatable, but at the moment, even with the knowledge we know about Tobirama, I don't think he would be able to defeat Kabuto unless he uses Edo tensei also. Although it is not to Kabutos extent, the way Tobirama acquires knowledge so quickly i would bet that he can duplicate Kabuto's style of Edo Tensei within the fight, Maybe even bringing back even more powerful Shinobi than what we've seen.
The improvement of Kabuto's Edo is in the contract summoning and the talismans. They would never be seen by Tobirama.


Simply said, Tobirama cannot win against about 34 of Naruto's strongest characters.
 

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If Goku was his edo tensei, I would agree. However, his edo's are weaker then Kabuto's edos. Kabuto is superior in ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu. He can sense better then Tobirama, and only lacks the speed of Tobirama. However, his complete control of the surroundings would completely make his FTG useless. DSM Kabuto no diff.
 
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