[Discussion] Tobirama senju had space time jutsu O_O

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Hey Just so that i am curious and i do not know how i missed this but..

Tobirama senju the second hokage had Space time ninjutsu??

and if that is true how tha hell did he die?
 

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He died against 20 elites Ninjas from Kumo ..

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By simply touching the ground with his index finger in one instance, he could detect the presence and number of enemy shinobi. and according to Minato, Tobirama was also very skilled in Space–Time Ninjutsu
 

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He died against 20 elites Ninjas from Kumo ..

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Yeah but they know nothing about space time and well he could easily have escaped after delaying them long enough O_O
 

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Yeah but they know nothing about space time and well he could easily have escaped after delaying them long enough O_O

True, but seeing as He announced Hiruzen a Hokage just before he left, it wouldn't fit if he came back alive would it?
 

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True, but seeing as He announced Hiruzen a Hokage just before he left, it wouldn't fit if he came back alive would it?

But its very weird u know just to throw away your life....like that when u could easily save your comrades and also your own life...
Seems pretty strange..
 

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But its very weird u know just to throw away your life....like that when u could easily save your comrades and also your own life...
Seems pretty strange..

Maybe he wanted to set an example to the new generation :rolleyes:
 

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When tobirama died he was fighting against 20 of the strongest cloud ninjas 2 of which were the kingin brothers. If you dont know who they are then go back and reread the begining of the great ninja war area. S/t jutsu all have a weakness and when fighting two demons it will end up being found out, konan found out madaras in a matter a mins when she fought him, so its possile that they had already known, and it was stated that tobi s/t jutsu is>Minato and >Tobirama so its possible it was just a basic move that could be countered relively easy by the current generations standards.
 

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Hey Just so that i am curious and i do not know how i missed this but..

Tobirama senju the second hokage had Space time ninjutsu??

and if that is true how tha hell did he die?

How could you? lol

He didn't die. He was secret lover of Madara and both of them planned this all out.
 

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When tobirama died he was fighting against 20 of the strongest cloud ninjas 2 of which were the kingin brothers. If you dont know who they are then go back and reread the begining of the great ninja war area. S/t jutsu all have a weakness and when fighting two demons it will end up being found out, konan found out madaras in a matter a mins when she fought him, so its possile that they had already known, and it was stated that tobi s/t jutsu is>Minato and >Tobirama so its possible it was just a basic move that could be countered relively easy by the current generations standards.

Kin gin brothers part is ok...


But Konan did not find out the weakness in minutes she had gone over that plan many times ever since she took the body of dead nagato and left konoha...

and she knew about that weakness from observation of tobi....since a long time...
 

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Maybe he wanted to set an example to the new generation :rolleyes:

Jokes apart that would be silliest death in that case.

Tobirama's death was surprising to me too as the Kages seem to be able to handle that much and Tobirama was supposed to be a great Kage in his own might.

Tobirama's space time jutsu was the first thing Minato remembered and compared to when he saw Tobi. He also created edo tech and was best water element user..

Didn't Battle with Kin-Gin brothers was fought separately during a revolt when Tobirama was in Kumo? Maybe he was not upto at his 100%?
 
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But its very weird u know just to throw away your life....like that when u could easily save your comrades and also your own life...
Seems pretty strange..

Jokes apart that would be silliest death in that case.

Tobirama's death was surprising to me too as the Kages seem to be able to handle that much and Tobirama was supposed to be a great Kage in his own might.

Tobirama's space time jutsu was the first thing Minato remembered and compared to when he saw Tobi. He also created edo tech and was best water element user..

Didn't Battle with Kin-Gin brothers was fought separately during a revolt when Tobirama was in Kumo? Maybe he was not upto at his 100%?


They had made a plan. Tobirama knew who it was and he probably also knew that their best chances of all of them surviving was to use himself as bait because they were clearly out-numbered (The whole fight with Danzo and Sarutobi how Saru say's he'll sacrifice himself first and Danzo just cries like a baby in fear). I don't think whatever his S/T Jutsu was that it could save all of them because if it could, and since he was Kage level, he probably wouldn't have come up with a plan that included sacrificing himself as the best chances for the groups survival.

As far as the Hokage are concern

Minato/Sarutobi > Hashirama > Tobirama > Tsunade ;)
 

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When tobirama died he was fighting against 20 of the strongest cloud ninjas 2 of which were the kingin brothers. If you dont know who they are then go back and reread the begining of the great ninja war area. S/t jutsu all have a weakness and when fighting two demons it will end up being found out, konan found out madaras in a matter a mins when she fought him, so its possile that they had already known, and it was stated that tobi s/t jutsu is>Minato and >Tobirama so its possible it was just a basic move that could be countered relively easy by the current generations standards.

wrong, it was stated that the 2nd was left to the edge of dying but not died. Most proberly the 2nd died with those 20 elite kumo ninjas, and the brothers weren't there back then, that was something what happend much earlier i suppose.
 

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Hey Just so that i am curious and i do not know how i missed this but..

Tobirama senju the second hokage had Space time ninjutsu??

and if that is true how tha hell did he die?


fighting two version 2 6 tailed kyubis , and 18 other ninjas.
 

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If they are elite that means that they are all on kakashi and gai level + kin gin broos. Not even minato could deal with that I believe. And it's still quite unclear how he died. For all we know he may be Tobi xd
 

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If they are elite that means that they are all on kakashi and gai level + kin gin broos. Not even minato could deal with that I believe. And it's still quite unclear how he died. For all we know he may be Tobi xd

exactly,i heard people calling 2nd hokage weak for dieing to 20 ninjas... -_- yea i would love to see any ninja go up against 20 kakashi/guy/darui level ninjas...(highlevel jounins)
 

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hmmm.....Tobirama's eyes are red ......re reading whole naruto and shippuden lol ....this is gonna come to me very easy when i re read lol ...damn the guy got red eyes already hahahaha
 

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He was considered a master of S/T because of the Edo Tensei. It's a sort of summoning tech and summoning techs are space/time jutsus.


"Parent jutsu - Summoning tech"
 

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He was considered a master of S/T because of the Edo Tensei. It's a sort of summoning tech and summoning techs are space/time jutsus.


"Parent jutsu - Summoning tech"

Then That mean Sasuke/Naruto/Danzo/Madara/Guy and most other ninjas etc. all know S/T Jutsu :|
 

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Then That mean Sasuke/Naruto/Danzo/Madara/Guy and most other ninjas etc. all know S/T Jutsu :|

That's just basics. You need to sign contract with the animals and you're fine. Edo Tensei/FTG is on whole different level. And seeing as noone else have mastered FTG I guess it's ain't easy either.

Anyway, im not inventing anything on my own. Summoning tech is of S/T nature and it's manga fact. You teleport animals from one place to another, it's a manipulation of space.
 
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