Tobirama one of the greatest kage ever!

[tyltyl]

We know we haven't seen hardly any of him. But I have a few things to back this up

1.Power- Time and time again in the ninja world confidence hints at power. Any fight that has been ever fought more than not the one that's the more stern, emotionless, and serious always wins. Tobirama- Madara this time I'll defeat you... Him putting orochimaru, sasuke and the others on their guard by holding up one finger? Being able to break a wall by using his chakra, using jutsus that require a 1000 handseals but only uses 3? Being unfazed facing the 10 tails and hashirama's roused up chakra.

2. Politically- he was disciplined. New coming clans were joining the village at this time things were getting unstable but by reinforcing the rules, and telling it how it is. He made the village safe. his purpose for the treatment of the Uchiha was to prevent a new madara during his time. There wasn't one. He helped build the village and created the systems for the village.

3.Influence- the rest of the village stole his political ideas. As for Edo tensei it's quite Ironic. A jutsu that has killed more of the shinobi alliance than the zetsus have given the shinobi alliance a chance against the juubi. And sasuke would've have not turned good if he wasn't able to talk to his brother or the hokage again.

4.Senju's love- He was furious when being told he could've been used to destroy the village by sasuke. He put the village above himself. He gave a small speech to hiruzen about becoming hokage and passed on the will of fire that was given to him by his brother

 

[-immortal-]

Hashi
minato
Fodder

 

[Daft]

He is a boss, I can't deny.

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

Hashi
minato
Fodder

He's got the right idea. xD
OT: Tobirama is epic. He needs to show off more of his techniques.

 

[Ragdollkitty]

I agree that his ideas for the village were great but diplomatically he wasn't really good. I mean why would the Uchiha think that Tobirama assigning them to be Konoha's police force was an attempt at isolation and short-changing them?

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

1.Power- Time and time again in the ninja world confidence hints at power. Any fight that has been ever fought more than not the one that's the more stern, emotionless, and serious always wins

you say that yet for all his confidence he was defeated and left almost dead by two pseudo jinchuriki brothers with 6 tails kyuubi chakra

Him putting orochimaru, sasuke and the others on their guard by holding up one finger? Being able to break a wall by using his chakra, using jutsus that require a 1000 handseals but only uses 3? Being unfazed facing the 10 tails and hashirama's roused up chakra.

getting fu cked up and left almost dead by two brothers who also had to take on 2nd raikage? beaten by 20 fodders who for all we know were the same caliber of "elites" that 15 year old obito was soloing casually? getting blown up and sealed by 1 foot in the grave exhausted hiruzen?

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

and to add further insult, kinkaku called being brought back by tobirama "pitiful". he does not want to be the puppet of someone so weak

 

[Pravin5]

tobirama is just awesome

 

[Ryutsu]

His the one who got Madara out the village and start war with the senju so i dont like Tobirama...

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Hell no if this true sasuke must be a beast

 

[tyltyl]

We don't know exactly what happened tobirama could've killed all of them then committed suicide or didn't even put up a fight because he already made hiruzen hokage

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

if he didnt put up a fight that means his sacrifice meant nothing and kinkaku force caught up to his team. and no he didnt kiill kin and gin since they knew who third raikage was and spoke of tobirama like he was really weak and useless

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Hashi
minato
Fodder

This^

No offence, but I personally hate Tobirama. In fact he is one of my hateful characters. He has a gloomy and depressed personality. Admit it fapboys, he's never happy; lived with depression and worry and died with it. Even after being Edo'ed twice he is still ****ing depressed. I think he is just a failure of a Senju. But then you might argue that he only wants to protect the village. Well if it wasn't for him becoming paranoid and causing Madara to switch back to the dark side, things may have been okay. U_U

Atleast Itachi admitted that he failed in some of the things he did, but Tobirama? No, he is just a sad piece of shit who is lucky enough to be a Senju. If it wasn't for his brother, Hashirama he would be raped by his own clan for being damn depressed. :yeah: Minato and Hashirama are my fave Hokages.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Atleast Itachi admitted that he failed in some of the things he did

itachi said he had no regrets. meaning hed didnt regret slaughtering babies, savagely torturing his own brother like a sadistic thug and trying to brainwash/enslave him

 

[tyltyl]

Tobirama has never been depressed just prideful. He knew the task at hand and was disciplined. There's a difference between depressed and having pride. And HOLD ON! Madara went to the dark side when he had the thoughts of him failing to protect his brother and when the people chose hashirama of being hokage instead of him. He hated the village altogether for that.

 

[Vandenreich]

This^

No offence, but I personally hate Tobirama. In fact he is one of my hateful characters. He has a gloomy and depressed personality. Admit it fapboys, he's never happy; lived with depression and worry and died with it. Even after being Edo'ed twice he is still ****ing depressed. I think he is just a failure of a Senju. But then you might argue that he only wants to protect the village. Well if it wasn't for him becoming paranoid and causing Madara to switch back to the dark side, things may have been okay. U_U

Atleast Itachi admitted that he failed in some of the things he did, but Tobirama? No, he is just a sad piece of shit who is lucky enough to be a Senju. If it wasn't for his brother, Hashirama he would be raped by his own clan for being damn depressed. :yeah: Minato and Hashirama are my fave Hokages.

You spelled offense wrong.

 

[sanninuto]

yeah he's cool

 

[HashiraMada]

His the one who got Madara out the village and start war with the senju so i dont like Tobirama...

same lol i dont like him cause i think the friendship of hashirama and madara fell is because tobirama ,and tobirama doesnt acknowledged madara

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

itachi said he had no regrets. meaning hed didnt regret slaughtering babies, savagely torturing his own brother like a sadistic thug and trying to brainwash/enslave him

Really? Then please check what Itachi says at the bottom of this manga scan. U_U

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Tobirama has never been depressed just prideful. He knew the task at hand and was disciplined. There's a difference between depressed and having pride. And HOLD ON! Madara went to the dark side when he had the thoughts of him failing to protect his brother and when the people chose hashirama of being hokage instead of him. He hated the village altogether for that.

Then show me a legit pic of him smiling or expressing joy. He is just a stuck up bastard, similar to Madara but just a non-Uchiha. :yeah: It WAS Tobirama's paranoia and perhaps envy that lead to Madara becoming evil and hopeless. U_U

You spelled offense wrong.

My bad Ah big deal, it was just a minor spelling mistake. The important thing is you understand what my point is.