Tobirama kills Izuna

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Pretty obvious really. The whole parallel thing kishi has going. Most people assumed it was Izuna that was more forgiving and wanted to end the fighting but really it was Madara. Much like with Itachi and Sasuke, Itachi/Madara was the visionary prodigy while Sasuke/Izuna was the conformist Uchiha. But instead of Itachi sacrificing everything for his lil bro...Sasuke dieing would probably be like Izuna dieing for Madara, Itachi would likely have been just as bad as Madara after that.

Tobirama from what we've seen of him doesn't seem to be a very forgiving guy so he likely didn't want an alliance or he didn't believe it would work. So he likely killed Izuna during their rivalry sometime giving rise to "Yar :devil: world domination Madara!" its unlikely to happen in the next chapter.

:erm: Then again this goes against the previous references of Izuna giving up his eyes to Madara...he can't really do that if hes dead killed by Tobirama. But then why the hell would Madara hate Hashirama? Is it for perceived empty ideals or promises? It would make sense for Madara to hate Hashirama after a betrayal...though I don't think Hashirama was the guy to kill Izuna...hence why I would guess Tobirama with the whole rivalry thing Kishi seems to be pushing.
 

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no.. izuna good killed in a FIght..
he didn't knew who killed him because...bec....
he was Blind HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA XD
 

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It's possible he killed him while he was blind which made madara rage... yes.
 

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Izuna and Madara were adults when Izuna died. Remember the flashback Tobi showed Sasuke?
 

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It's possible he killed him while he was blind which made madara rage... yes.

But still it makes no sense, why would someone basically kill a defenseless man? I can't see Tobirama even as unforgiving as he is doing that...

Izuna and Madara were adults when Izuna died. Remember the flashback Tobi showed Sasuke?

Yeah so? I'm not saying it happened when they were kids. I'm just saying it was probably Tobirama that did it.
 
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Tobi might be lying about the story but the whole truth would come from hashirama.
 

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But still it makes no sense, why would someone basically kill a defenseless man? I can't see Tobirama even as unforgiving as he is doing that...



Yeah so? I'm not saying it happened when they were kids. I'm just saying it was probably Tobirama that did it.
Why do you think Madara was so pissed? For this reason. IDK who killed him but it was a Senju.
 

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I doubt it, that would suck. Tobirama's only known kill was against a blind man... woohoo.
 

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Im not sure he was blind and fighting. I think he died and at his deathbed he gave away his eyes similair to Obito.
And if Tobirama killed him i dont think hed want to fight Hashirama hed want to kill Tobirama.

I think that Izuna didnt want an alliance or atleast he was suspicious of the Senju a bit like Tobirama agasint the Uchiha, and at his death he gave away his eyes telling Madara to use them to protect the clan and to not let it be under the Senjus supression so thats why it was so important Madara became Hokage, He was filled with rage and he wanted to fulfill his brothers wish.
 
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It's highly possible. This would explain Madara's distrust towards Senju Clan and his perseverance to protect his own kith and kin.
 

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Pretty obvious really. The whole parallel thing kishi has going. Most people assumed it was Izuna that was more forgiving and wanted to end the fighting but really it was Madara. Much like with Itachi and Sasuke, Itachi/Madara was the visionary prodigy while Sasuke/Izuna was the conformist Uchiha. But instead of Itachi sacrificing everything for his lil bro...Sasuke dieing would probably be like Izuna dieing for Madara, Itachi would likely have been just as bad as Madara after that.

Tobirama from what we've seen of him doesn't seem to be a very forgiving guy so he likely didn't want an alliance or he didn't believe it would work. So he likely killed Izuna during their rivalry sometime giving rise to "Yar :devil: world domination Madara!" its unlikely to happen in the next chapter.

:erm: Then again this goes against the previous references of Izuna giving up his eyes to Madara...he can't really do that if hes dead killed by Tobirama. But then why the hell would Madara hate Hashirama? Is it for perceived empty ideals or promises? It would make sense for Madara to hate Hashirama after a betrayal...though I don't think Hashirama was the guy to kill Izuna...hence why I would guess Tobirama with the whole rivalry thing Kishi seems to be pushing.

You say Tobirama likely didn't want an alliance yet he was the first person to propose an alliance.
 

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Either tobirama killed him, hashirama might have killed him by mistakes cause the uchiha clan love their mask and izuna might have attack ed hashi witha mask on and hashi ended up killing him or a member of the senju clan killed him but after his sharingan was extracted, he put some three tomoe sharigan.
 

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We have to assume Tobirama and Izuna survived that fight because Tobirama became hokage, and Izuna grew up gave his eyes to madara and died on the battlefield.
 

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3 things wrong with this right away

1) Izuna gave his eyes to Madara BEFORE he died and AFTER Madara went blind. So no, Tobirama is not gunna kill him in the next fight

2) Why would Madara join Konoha (and he did for a time) if Tobirma killed his brother?

3) Why would he fight Hashirama instead of his brother?
 

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If you think he's going to die in the battle between them next chapter, definitely not. In the previous flashbacks we were shown during itachi and sasuke's fight it showed Izuna older than he is in the most recent chapter. It's possible that Tobirama killed him in the future but there's no way to say for sure.

Also it was said that Izuna willingly gave Madara his eyes, but we really don't know the circumstance of this. According to what we heard before, Izuna gave Madara his eyes after Madara had already overused his MS and was blind and sick because of it. This has to be years beyond where they are now....as far as we know, Madara and Izuna don't even have MS yet at their current age in last chapter, it's a possibility but be don't know yet.
 

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He'll kill Izuna for Slaughtering the Senju Clan after Konoha formation.... That's what I feel.... And then Madara will take Izuna's eys from Izuna's body.... :D :D
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if he did I'm starting to really support Tobirama killing Izuna. Because if not this, I wonder what possibly could have broken Hashirama and Madara's bond since they were so close? If it did happen though, it obviously didn't happen this upcoming fight unless Kishi retconned it lol.
 
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