Tobirama isnt top 15

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Exactly my thoughts , he is top 5-10.
 

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1. Flying Thunder God is instantaneous teleportation. It is virtually impossible for it to be slower. Minato only has more variations of its use; however, considering we know Tobirama csn place seals on things it is logical to conclude he can tag kunai.

2. Said Suiton was used at a MINISCULE fraction of his power.

3. Tobirams and Hashirama were both speed blitzed. Furthermore, it was set up to display Obito's power. After that, Tobirams used it as a trap to bomb Obito. So why bother dodging....and the fact he landed both bombs and an FTG tag with his off hand or even faster destroyed hand proves he wasn't even blitzed.

4. His exploding talisman jutsu can be used with multiple Edo tensei's giving it one of the highest damage levels in the Narutoverse.

5. Both Naruto and Sasuke were blitzed by Obito, and unlike Tobirama they had no counters

6. He's only used his own Edo variant and FTG, but those aren't his strong suits...he's a Suiton master and HASN'T even used it.


If those don't count as strong feats than IDK what would.....Tobirama is top 10 IMO

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Tobirama isn't even top 15



-Stop with the dickriding

-He has soft feats

-His FTG is hella slow compared to Minatos

-You cat like his FTG would be a one shot kill or something avoiding every move the opponent makes :yay:
-From what weve seen his defence is shit

-When he was edo vs god of shinobi he had some tough water jutsu(thatisall)

Hashi, Madara, Obito, Itachi, Minato, Nagato, Sasuke, Naruto, Sarutobi, Orochimaru, Kabuto, Kisami, Kakashi, Guy(Gates), Garaa, Muu, Granny, Sasori, Juubito, s06p,Oonoki-, Killer Bee, ect ect

Those are some characters that shit all over tobirama from what we've, that list isnt in any order and can go on with even more characters

-Untill we see more of the 2nd dont hype him up because of his (badassness) - that got ripped in half in seconds :cool:




-If you want to argue show me manga reference

Tobirama is top 10, not all fanboys **** ride him. Only the bandwagoners.

1. Not all of us **** ride.

2. He has great feats. Reflexes like Minato, good Suiton skill, Kenjutsu, Sensory, Edo Tensei, Hiraishin.

3. FTG is instant. FTG cannot be slow if it is instant. Read the VIZ translation.

4. His FTG dodges most attacks.

5. He has had 1 panel.

6. That was part 1. He used those jutsu without a water source and with 1 handseal. As a half powered edo. Look at Hashi compared to his former self.

7. Too many to correct.

8. Not all of them.

9. Got ripped in half and still placed a Hiraishin mark on a near instant Juubito, plus 3 explosive tags, while thinking of that plan an instant before he executed it. Obito was near instant. Intelligence and reflex feat.
 

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Funny how yall were boosting tobirama ike he was top 5 n shit... look at him now the dude cant even stand lulzz
 

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This thread got solod but I'm throwing in my two cents.

FTG easily puts him on another level, his reflexes are comparable to minato's, he has a jutsu that can annihilate plenty of shinobi, he has great sensory abilities, he is a suiton master, he is a senju.

He is fast, strong, & smart. Most ninja barely cover 2 of these three points. Tobirama is one of the most well-rounded characters [combat-wise]. & I can barely think of anyone who could even keep up with him let alone deal with his arsenal.


Yes he needs more feats, but as of now he's definitely top 15 [in fact he's 15th on my list exactly]
 

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madara solod him like it was nothing. his ftg isnt anywhere near minatos.But yea you got him at the right spot.. I put him around 11-14 were Kakashi and Guy are ranked better than he is xD
 

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I don't think he's top 10 either. U_U

in no order

Naruto, Minato, obito, madara, hashirama, nagato, kabuto, Jiraiya, 3rd Raikage, A, B, Kin & Gin, Pain
Sasuke are stronger than him.

possibly kakashi as well.
He's on the same level as Mu & 2nd Mizukage in my opinion.
 

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I don't see how Tobirama defeats the Third Raikage - who is easily one of the most powerful ninja to ever live. I also think Kakashi outclasses him overall. Killer Bee is another who could properly take on Tobirama, I no he can't beat Itachi.

I put Tobirama above Mu and the 2nd Mizukage though. And Tobirama's death doesn't really help his case, but then again we don't know all the details. However I will say that he is top 15, below Third Raikage, Kakashi and Killer Bee.
 
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For me he isnt. Some of akatsuki can beat him too U_U
 

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I don't see how Tobirama defeats the Third Raikage - who is easily one of the most powerful ninja to ever live. I also think Kakashi outclasses him overall. Killer Bee is another who could properly take on Tobirama, I no he can't beat Itachi.

I put Tobirama above Mu and the 2nd Mizukage though. And Tobirama's death doesn't really help his case, but then again we don't know all the details. However I will say that he is top 15, below Third Raikage, Kakashi and Killer Bee.
He stabs him in his most vulnerable area; his eyes.
 
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