Tobirama is weak?

[zamki]

Tobirama is baws and you call Kin-Gin mid strength?..Hell No.

 

[Senju Korama]

The Third Raikage could've been one of the Shinobi in the Elite Squad that killed Tobirama, along with those brothers. All im saying is ven though Tobirama is truly powerful, Kumogakure had a couple of powerful shinobi as well.

 

[Founding Fire Shadow]

Before you start hating on me just hear me out.

The reason i say this is because he got beat by 20 fodders and 2 of those people where gin and kin the only mid stengh people.If the 3rd raikage can Stand for days and days and fight thousands and thousands of people than how come Tobirama could not?Also he has a s/t jutsu, he could have teleported somehwere.He is all talk and no action, hopefully he fights Sasuke, than he will finally meet his match! :devil:

LOL what you guys think?*_*

1.) We do not know the strength of the Kinkaku Force, however by Tobirama's description they were all elite shinobi, how elite has yet to been displayed so his death by them is hardly an accurate measure of power nor is comparing his death to another shinobi's.

2.) There has yet to be any link established between the Kinkaku Force & the Gold/Silver Brothers, in fact Tobirama & the Second Raikage had previously faced them & survived their attempted coup which would logically have ended their ties with Kumogakure, so to assume they were serving in a force still under Kumogakure's command in the 1st Shinobi War is foolish.

3.) Ginkaku & Kinkaku were hardly mid-level shinobi, possessing sacred weapons that could defeat any shinobi regardless of said shinobi's strength & chakra shrouds of Kurama that could reach up to 6 tails, keep in mind only 4 Tails was enough to almost kill Jiraiya & push back Orochimaru, the fact that Tobirama survived their ambush is a testament of his strength.

4.) Make no mistake by the end of the manga Tobirama will likely be Top 10 on everybody's list if not Top 5, keep in mind he distinguished himself against the Uchiha at the peak of their power; the same clan that villages like Sunagakure had strict rules of retreat against despite it being a shadow of its former self & even managed to mortally wound Izuna who has been established as close to Madara in strength & was the 2nd strongest Uchiha in the clan at that time with his Mangekyo Sharingan, furthermore Tobirama was a master of Space/Time jutsu & invented the Edo Tensei, as well as being a powerful Suiton user despite not being at full strength during that battle, do not underestimate him.shodaimeicon:

 

[LeEvilTongue]

Before you start hating on me just hear me out.

The reason i say this is because he got beat by 20 fodders and 2 of those people where gin and kin the only mid stengh people.If the 3rd raikage can Stand for days and days and fight thousands and thousands of people than how come Tobirama could not?Also he has a s/t jutsu, he could have teleported somehwere.He is all talk and no action, hopefully he fights Sasuke, than he will finally meet his match! :devil:



LOL what you guys think?*_*

Im curious as to why everyone believes they were fodder. Beyond himself stating that it was the SKILLED Kinkaku force, we know nothing about his death. All we know is that he killed Izuna like nothing. Deal with it 8)

 

[Penguin]

Let me interject:

Tobirama had to Contain 20 Elite Ninja plus Gin and Kin, and Kakazu could have been part of that group. Kakazu stated when Kin had the Cloak vs Darui, "Did Gin die?" or something along those lines, because Kin awakens the cloak out of anger I am presuming. That means, Tobirama could have killed some of the 20 elite ninja + gin, then Kin suprised Tobirama with the 9 tail cloak. Or Tobirama got sealed inside of the Sage Artifacts. But remember, he was figthing to buy time and contain 20 elite ninja.

Edit: I will make a better thread about it later.

 

[Giest]

The reason i say this is because he got beat by 20 fodders and 2 of those people where gin and kin the only mid stengh people.If the 3rd raikage can Stand for days and days and fight thousands and thousands of people than how come Tobirama could not?Also he has a s/t jutsu, he could have teleported somehwere.

Wow, way to show your fundamental lack of understanding of what was going on.

1.) Those ninja were not fodder. They were an elite force. We don't know if Kin and Gin were there or not (there's a lot of argument) but if they were, that makes the stakes even higher. Calling them "mid strength" is laughable. They are almost jinchuurikis.

2.) Everyone makes this 3rd Raikage comparison, when we don't know much about that situation either. However, I can guarantee you the ninjas he was fighting were actually fodders.

4.) "He could have just teleported somewhere". Okay. Do you not understand the reason why he went to fight that force? He was trying to buy time for his team to escape. If he had just decided to S/T out when the going got tough, that would totally defy the point of the whole thing. The fact that he stayed adds to his character, IMO, that he was willing to do that.

 

[Kinez]

Just wait and see what happend to him, pretty sure we'll find out how he ended cos i doubt he just got stomped by 20 random ninjas.
We also never knew what and how hashi died..and now we'r seeing more info come to light about his possible suicide lol.. patiance

 

[Nakamazi Itchigo]

We don't know the full extent of his power so we can't really say..

 

[iKaras]

Its justice that he get attention whether it's positive or negative. Had to wait 600+ chapters to get some pub. Then ppl complain that he's getting too much. .. smhs