Tobirama is not Kage level

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Tobirama is not that great tbh

He wasnt even elected, just a shoe in because of his brother.

Also, during his time, leaders for the village weren't strong, just political.

Minato perfected his S/T jutsu, Oro + Kabuto perfected his Edo Tensei, Kisame is a 100x better water user than Tobirama.

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Yes the 2nd hokage is not kage level. Seems legit.
 

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tell me a ninja who is not top 12 and can beat him? ....plus if danzo and kakashi were almost hokages......
 

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Lol no :|

As soon as Kisane can make water jutsu out of thin air, call me ;)

And Minato and Oro spent their whole lives trying to compare to the second u.u
 

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troll, you just want to put Tobirama down so Minato looks better,

Tobirama was a Kage and is kage level, also I believe very few 'kage level' people could take him on with low-high_mid diff.

he would prob annihilate many people below kage level and everyone below S-rank
 

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I would disagree.
 

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He is dfntly high Kage level and easily Kage level ...He elected as a Hokage bcoz he is the strongest Senju as wel as Strongest in village after Hashirama during his Time..............!


Lol no :|

As soon as Kisane can make water jutsu out of thin air, call me ;)

And Minato and Oro spent their whole lives trying to compare to the second u.u

Minato died when he is 21-25 and Tobirama had died when he is 40-50...'

Tobirama had more than 20 years to perfect FTG.....!

Same with Kabuto ...What is ur point ...?
 
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Lol no :|

As soon as Kisane can make water jutsu out of thin air, call me ;)

And Minato and Oro spent their whole lives trying to compare to the second u.u

Minato was using a better FTG in his teens than Tobirama could dream of
 

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He created FTG and Edo Tensei.... So without him.... Both Minato and Oro are out of Top 10 or 15.... And he definitely is High Kage Level....
 

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1st is the worst.

Second is the best.

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So you're saying Trollkage and Muu were weak...you know those guys who lost only because they were *****ing around and only started trying when they had a foot in the grave. Nice try on your political statement.


Too bad without Tobirama Minato doesn't become a Kage level shinobi....FTG was invented by him and all.

Too bad the only thing that kept Obito in this war doesn't happen... Edo Tensei being invented by himan all.


Actually it's already been stated multiple times the Hokage is chosen BY THE PEOPLE. Even Itachi has said this. If we went by what you said then Madara would have been Hokage because he got a shoe in from Hashirama.


Tobirama with probably 10% strength could use the Water Dragon with only One hand Seal and no water present. He also created a water wall under the same conditions. Kisame has to make water before he uses his greatest moves. So in theory Tobirams is plausibly better than Kisame.

Tobirama had the reaction speed to plant both explosive tags and a FTG seal on someone who speed blitzed him meaning he plausibly could have instead dodged. Not only that but the seal was placed on the side opposite Tobirams's free hand meaning either 1 he's fast enough to tag him with his off hand, or B he's even faster and can tag him before losing his right hand.





Analyze what characters have shown. For having virtually no screen time, and the least hype presented amongst the Hokage.... He's been doing very well.

Forgot to mention...

Suiton

Edo Tensei

FTG

Kenjutsu

Taijutsu



The above are styles he's good with which means he is impossible to pin down under one single pattern or counter....making him the most diverse fighter in the Narutoverse.



Finally, his Edo tensei did not require perfection because he simply spawned multiple bodies and had them suicide bomb with a blast scale the size of a Bijuudams ball....the concussive blast alone would probably kill people for several miles.




Tobirams is honestly the most impressive Kage after Hashirama IMO.



Edit: Oh... And who knows he could have perfected FTG and Edo Tensei, but like a hero and true Hokage he sacrificed himself to save the next generation which held Kagami, Hiruzen, and Danzo....all of which have helped create the best situation we have.


Hiruzen: Protected Konoha from Orochimaru

Kagami: Shinsui's father and KA which ends Edo tensei

Danzo: through his scheming he ends up causing Sasuke's rampage and this him gaining Itachi's eyes, meeting Itachi, and ultimately joining the Alliance



Pretty good thing he chose self sacrifice.
 
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Minato was using a better FTG in his teens than Tobirama could dream of

Minato owes his haxness to Tobirama.... :yay: :yay:

Even I'm a Minato fan.... But I don't care if Minato>Tobirama or Tobirama>Minato.... You are simply trying to put Tobirama down cause you read a few Tobirama>Minato Threads....
 

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Re: Tobirama is not that great tbh

He wasnt even elected, just a shoe in because of his brother.

Also, during his time, leaders for the village weren't strong, just political.

Minato perfected his S/T jutsu, Oro + Kabuto perfected his Edo Tensei, Kisame is a 100x better water user than Tobirama.

Come at me

How do you come to know??
 

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Re: Tobirama is not that great tbh

He wasnt even elected, just a shoe in because of his brother.

Also, during his time, leaders for the village weren't strong, just political.

Minato perfected his S/T jutsu, Oro + Kabuto perfected his Edo Tensei, Kisame is a 100x better water user than Tobirama.

Come at me

Sorry but no, Unless you're saying Madara (MS) wasn't kage level? Tobirama killed Izuna who was even with his brother Madara. Then Orochirmaru who is kage level feared Tobirama's power, almost crapped his pants along with Sasuke, Juugo and Suigetsu when Tobirama lifted 1 finger. It took Hashirama powerful chakra to make Tobirama stand down.
 

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Re: Tobirama is not that great tbh

So can Kisame... :|

Well technically Kisame has to make water before he's used any advanced technique. Against Team Gai he first had to use chakra to make the water in his mouth form a lake before he could use his large scale techniques.


That being said... I wouldn't be surprised I'd Kisame could use Suiton without water, but can he do it with a mere fraction of his power (less than even his body double) and with one hand seal?! We can't say for sure.

Which is why we need to see some Tobirama Suiton.


End of the day Tobirama is Hokage level. If not for the nest Suiton for the sheer diversity he can fight with...
 
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