Tobby17
Jōnin Strategist 🧠
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Ok first off, I keep seeing people talk about how Tobirama is ''weak'' and lost to 20 ''fodders'', even though in the manga, it obviously states that they were Elite Shinobis.. I doubt anybody in the Naruto verse (minus edo characters) can fight 20 shinobis ranging from Gai- Orochimaru level (these are the kind of ninjas you will consider 'elite')and NOT die... Moreover if you think Edo Tensei, FTG and bunch of high level water justus (hype), and him being elected HOKAGE after his brother is not enough proof of his strength, then you need to be checked.
That being said, a lot of people seem to think that Tobirama is somewhat the cause of the Uchiha massacre and he ''pushed'' Madara out of the village even though Madara was ready to let bygones be bygones, and that Tobirama ''discriminated'' against the Uchiha
But what you people don't remember is that, the ONLY reason Madara accepted the 'peace' talks was because Hashirama wanted it badly and maybe you forgot but Madara was about to DIE!, and even then he was the one pulling the shots!.. I mean who in this condition would not have accepted the offer from Hashirama?. It's not like Madara suddenly had a change of heart even though his brother got killed by Tobirama. And if you read the last manga, you will know that Tobirama had EVERY right NOT to trust Madara, seeing as Madara just backstabbed Obito. He could have done the same to Hashirama
Secondly, Kakashi's father killed himself because the village turned their back on him, that didn't make Kakashi hate the village!, Naruto was hated by everyone for being Jinchuuriki, that didn't make him turn his back on the village. So why should Madara's case be different
And concerning the so called ''discrimination'' against the Uchihas, and their coup which led to the massacre. I will say this, Tobirama has absolutely NOTHING to do with it, he did NOT discriminate the Uchihas neither did he ''segregate'' them, he gave them a special role in the village and they were very much a part of the village. The Uchihas only became somewhat ''discriminated'' against after Obito attacked the Konoha!..
And THAT has NOTHING to do with Tobirama, but a LOT to do with Madara and Obito
That being said, a lot of people seem to think that Tobirama is somewhat the cause of the Uchiha massacre and he ''pushed'' Madara out of the village even though Madara was ready to let bygones be bygones, and that Tobirama ''discriminated'' against the Uchiha
But what you people don't remember is that, the ONLY reason Madara accepted the 'peace' talks was because Hashirama wanted it badly and maybe you forgot but Madara was about to DIE!, and even then he was the one pulling the shots!.. I mean who in this condition would not have accepted the offer from Hashirama?. It's not like Madara suddenly had a change of heart even though his brother got killed by Tobirama. And if you read the last manga, you will know that Tobirama had EVERY right NOT to trust Madara, seeing as Madara just backstabbed Obito. He could have done the same to Hashirama
Secondly, Kakashi's father killed himself because the village turned their back on him, that didn't make Kakashi hate the village!, Naruto was hated by everyone for being Jinchuuriki, that didn't make him turn his back on the village. So why should Madara's case be different
And concerning the so called ''discrimination'' against the Uchihas, and their coup which led to the massacre. I will say this, Tobirama has absolutely NOTHING to do with it, he did NOT discriminate the Uchihas neither did he ''segregate'' them, he gave them a special role in the village and they were very much a part of the village. The Uchihas only became somewhat ''discriminated'' against after Obito attacked the Konoha!..
And THAT has NOTHING to do with Tobirama, but a LOT to do with Madara and Obito
