Tobirama Faster Than Minato.

[Rikudou Sennin balls]

Idk why are people so confused in the beginning of the chapter Tobirama grabbed the orb because it was kind stuck to Minato's other side of his body. It's like scratching your back you can do it but with someone else it's easier. On the FTG issue the FTG is an intanious jutsu nether is faster than the other. Minato's is just more vercitile, he has special kunai.
Who's faster it's Minato hands down. Until Kish says Tobirama can out speed Minato it's confirmed Minato is the fastest person ever.

 

[Microsword57]

Minato's clone was the one responsible for slashing Obito

What does that prove though? There claiming that because Minato's clone used the Flying Thunder God technique here that it proves Minato's is instant and Tobirama's is near instant. When in Reality Tobirama's clone could have done that exact feat if not faster. I know that the clone can do it. I'm stating that Tobirama's clone move faster than Minato and it was said that clones move slower than the Original meaning Tobirama would have to be a faster Flying Thunder God user. Thanks for the scan though I was unsure if he did it.

 

[grizzlyshree]

What does that prove though? There claiming that because Minato's clone used the Flying Thunder God technique here that it proves Minato's is instant and Tobirama's is near instant. When in Reality Tobirama's clone could have done that exact feat if not faster. I know that the clone can do it. I'm stating that Tobirama's clone move faster than Minato and it was said that clones move slower than the Original meaning Tobirama would have to be a faster Flying Thunder God user. Thanks for the scan though I was unsure if he did it.

tbh, we dont know how it went. if Tobiramas was faster, Minato would have acknowledged him at the least.

 

[Voidstep]

I didn't misintepret I am already informed on everything you said, but Tobirama's clone used the Flying Thunder God Technique and stop Obito's attack before the real Minato could.

well my post was about your first point and the scan in the spoilers.

that is another issue.
which I guess that Tobirama reacted to it first.
Tobirama as a spectator could have seen what Obito did to Minato (TBB atached to his arm) before Minato himself, since Minato was surprised and just saw it after.

plus, Minato shined a bit already. IMO this chapter is to make Tobirama shine too, finally.

 

[Voidstep]

What does that prove though? There claiming that because Minato's clone used the Flying Thunder God technique here that it proves Minato's is instant and Tobirama's is near instant. When in Reality Tobirama's clone could have done that exact feat if not faster. I know that the clone can do it. I'm stating that Tobirama's clone move faster than Minato and it was said that clones move slower than the Original meaning Tobirama would have to be a faster Flying Thunder God user. Thanks for the scan though I was unsure if he did it.

what you just said makes no sense.
because if it was like you are saying Tobirama would have used his clone instead of Minato (since you say his clone his faster than Minato) to do the switch on Obito.
plus, it was his own tag that was on Obito, he didn't need Minato to do that.

 

[Percy Jackson]

remember Minatousing FTG with his clone to stop Obito from using rinnei tensei? it proves that Tobiraamms FTG <Minatos FTG.

if Minatos is instant ,Tobiramas is near instant or speed of light at its best.

Yes, that's obito before he become juubito.
Basic obito already had a mark from minato. In other words only minato can use his FTG on obito that time. And now the one who marked juubito is tobirama that's Y only tobirama can use FTG on current juubito.


Seems to me both FTG are instant.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Does This Chapter establish that Tobirama's Thunder God Technique is faster than Minato's?
Tobirama says that using a clone for the Thunder God Technique would be to slow and how it would be faster to use themselves.

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Tobirama used clone when tryiing to hit Obito with his own jutsu in this chapter. Thats why he said using clones would be to slow, b/c Minato was also about to try and use clones to create an opening with FTG. He also said Minato's FTG is faster than his own. Duhhhh

 

[grizzlyshree]

Yes, that's obito before he become juubito.
Basic obito already had a mark from minato. In other words only minato can use his FTG on obito that time. And now the one who marked juubito is tobirama that's Y only tobirama can use FTG on current juubito.


Seems to me both FTG are instant.

ya thats true but we stilll dont know if both are instant. Tobirama was in awe when he looked at Minato using FTG via clones. Minato didnt say anything abt TobiramasFTG speed in this chapter. so we dont have idea on who is faster but its most probably Minato.

 

[General Lex]

I'm confused. When Tobirama arrived to grab Obitos back he had to have used a body flicker rather than FTG because at that point he did not have any markers on Naruto, Sasuke, or Minato right? Or was there already a mark on them? From what I read only after hitting Obito with his own attack, did Tobirama mark Minato with his seal for FTG. Unless you can FTG to any location you want without a seal thus making the seal irrelevant. To say that his FTG or speed is faster than Minato based off last chapter is a bit far fetched especially if you admit that FTG couldn't have been the reason why Tobirama was able to get to Minato and party fast enough.

 

[Voidstep]

I'm confused. When Tobirama arrived to grab Obitos back he had to have used a body flicker rather than FTG because at that point he did not have any markers on Naruto, Sasuke, or Minato right? Or was there already a mark on them? From what I read only after hitting Obito with his own attack, did Tobirama mark Minato with his seal for FTG. Unless you can FTG to any location you want without a seal thus making the seal irrelevant. To say that his FTG or speed is faster than Minato based off last chapter is a bit far fetched especially if you admit that FTG couldn't have been the reason why Tobirama was able to get to Minato and party fast enough.

they marked each other, they can teleport stuff from one to another now.
Minato teleported Sasuke/Naruto to Tobirama, and after the attack hit Tobirama teleported them back to Minato.

 

[General Lex]

they marked each other, they can teleport stuff from one to another now.
Minato teleported Sasuke/Naruto to Tobirama, and after the attack hit Tobirama teleported them back to Minato.

Ok but in like the first two pages we see Tobirama coming from no where and catching Obitos attack and then FTG back at him. His initial arrival was due to body flicker not FTG right? Just wanna be sure if that's what happened. As for the Op idk how Tobirama pointing out clones using FTG is slower than using regular bodies equates to Tobirama FTG being faster than Minato. If my understanding was correct then the second part of the Op is void as Tobirama's clone arriving to save them was not a result of FTG but body flicker therefore it is incorrect to say that because of that feat, Tobirama FTG is faster then Minatos.

 

[Voidstep]

Ok but in like the first two pages we see Tobirama coming from no where and catching Obitos attack and then FTG back at him. His initial arrival was due to body flicker not FTG right? Just wanna be sure if that's what happened. As for the Op idk how Tobirama pointing out clones using FTG is slower than using regular bodies equates to Tobirama FTG being faster than Minato. If my understanding was correct then the second part of the Op is void as Tobirama's clone arriving to save them was not a result of FTG but body flicker therefore it is incorrect to say that because of that feat, Tobirama FTG is faster then Minatos.

yeah, I think it is safe to assume that it was with body flicker that Tobirama got to them.
as a spectator he most likely saw what Obito did to Minato and rushed to them, before they realised what happened.

and agree with your post

 

[Avinash012]

I Am confused on the Japanese Translations Hiraishin is the Flying Thunder God Technique and Shunshin is Body Flicker? Or What I'm Confused.

Tobirama is refering to body flicker here and Minato's FTG is faster since he reached level 2 and his level 1 is >/= Tobirama's

 

[benzy]

Cut it Minato > Tobirama UNTILL KISHI or UNTIL TOBIRAMA FODERIZED MINATO.

 

[Olorin]

Ftg is instant and instant = instant soooooo ... No use in arguing about speed

Minato however used the tech to save the entire alliance from the jubi and that prompted tobirama to say his ftg is better, he can use it in more ways

 

[RikudouMadara]

I'm confused...he says Fourth your Shunshin is better not faster. But better could also be faster, more range, etc. Also...is Shunshin the same as FTG? Just asking...I really don't know...like the exact same thing?

 

[benzy]

I'm confused...he says Fourth your Shunshin is better not faster. But better could also be faster, more range, etc. Also...is Shunshin the same as FTG? Just asking...I really don't know...like the exact same thing?

3 Facts why Minato is faster than Tobirama . 1st HIS FTG is not faster but it is better then Tobirama's FTG because he can usy kunais with FTG Forumula Since Tobirama need his hand to mark something . 2nd Shuushin is a body flicker not FTG the SECOND Said that Minato's SHUUSHIN is faster than Tobirama's SHUUSHIN Shuushin is a FOOT SPEED . 3rd Obito slashed Tobirama and he coudnt react since Minato reacted and got only his arm cuted . Now if u tell me Tobirama is faster then Minato i will say that u are a Tobirama FanBoy.

 

[Orange Hokage oF Leaf]

Tobirama himself said minato is fastet than him.