[VS] Tobirama & Darui VS 1MS Obito & Mū

[Pragmatic]

Location - Konoha

Intel - Full

Conditions - Everyone is restricted to the inside of Konoha

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[LuckyMan]

Tobirama solos with ET.

 

[Demonic.]

Darui is non factor. Team 2 wins U_U

 

[Lariatoo]

Team two easily.

 

[Apêx1]

Obito solo's.

 

[Pragmatic]

Tobirama solos with ET.

Obito solo's.

Debate

 

[KidGamer65]

Team 2 wins, but nobody solos anybody.

 

[Beans2]

Darui is a non factor so Team 2.

 

[Apêx1]

Team 2 wins, but nobody solos anybody.

Fight starts with Juubi sized Katon. Obito solo's since Darui's impact is negligible.

 

[Pragmatic]

Fight starts with Juubi sized Katon. Obito solo's since Darui's impact is negligible.

Can I get a scan where 1MS Obito uses a Juubi sized Katon?

 

[Apêx1]

Can I get a scan where 1MS Obito uses a Juubi sized Katon?

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[Beans2]

Fight starts with Juubi sized Katon. Obito solo's since Darui's impact is negligible.

The first team has two suiton users...

 

[Apêx1]

The first team has two suiton users...

Their Suiton just gets evaporated in front of massive Katon's like Obito's. Suiton's relevance in front of Katon can only hold in comparable quantities.

 

[KidGamer65]

Fight starts with Juubi sized Katon. Obito solo's since Darui's impact is negligible.

Tobirama either hides in some buildings, or evades it by tossing his Kunai in the air and teleporting to it after it's been fired, or he jumps on a building after it's been fired, and then jumps above the flame. Then he makes clones and tosses Kunai around the surrounding area. Downhill fight for Obito from there on.

 

[Apêx1]

Tobirama either hides in some buildings, or evades it by tossing his Kunai in the air and teleporting to it after it's been fired, or he jumps on a building after it's been fired, and then jumps above the flame. Then he makes clones and tosses Kunai around the surrounding area. Downhill fight for Obito from there on.

No, Obito makes his own location via flame formation. Then when he uses his Katon, they are bound to either defend or die (or Tobirama simply FTG's out). So no, there's no downhill fight here, Obito is clearly in an advantage when he can go in and out of a location they cannot escape. Once Darui is dead, Tobirama evidently loses as his fighting style is not remotely close to Minato's, nor do I see how this attribution of Kunai's makes any sense. He's marked one before, saying he keeps stacks like Minato is baseless conjecture.

 

[KidGamer65]

No, Obito makes his own location via flame formation. Then when he uses his Katon, they are bound to either defend or die (or Tobirama simply FTG's out).

Then Tobirama still evades.

So no, there's no downhill fight here, Obito is clearly in an advantage when he can go in and out of a location they cannot escape

Except Tobirama can escape, and Darui isn't even a factor.

Once Darui is dead, Tobirama evidently loses as his fighting style is not remotely close to Minato's, nor do I see how this attribution of Kunai's makes any sense. He's marked one before, saying he keeps stacks like Minato is baseless conjecture.

If this is going to be your argument, I can safely say that Tobirama shits on Obito just how Minato did.

-Clones act as mobile markings. Tobirama can teleport to them whenever he wants.

-Tobirama canonically marked a Kunai, proof enough that he marks his weapons. Not sure why you are saying "Saying he keeps stacks like Minato is baseless conjecture" when nobody ever claimed anything close to that. Unless you want to debate the contents of the ninja pouch being consisted of weapons like Kunai, it's pretty clear to me that Tobirama has more than one Kunai/Shuriken to use, thus he does what I said he'd do and he does it with ease.

-He can lay down markings of his own on the buildings of the village, or on the ground.

Obito comes after him, tries to warp him, gets bamflashed by Tobirama and his clones. If Obito tries to warp away, he gets bamflashed. All his moves get evaded. Obito literally doesn't stand a chance. "Not the same fighting style" as Minato isn't anywhere near enough of an argument to say that Obito wins.

He gets stomped on his own.

 

[KCN]

Minato needed only one Kunai to shit on Obito. So will Tobirama. In a 1v1, Tobirama slumps him low-mid diff especially with full intel. This match goes to team two however as Darui is useless and Muu tips the scales.

 

[LuckyMan]

Can someone explain how Muu and Darui die because this turned into Tobirama vs Obito real quick.

 

[Apêx1]

Then Tobirama still evades.


Except Tobirama can escape, and Darui isn't even a factor.

Didn't say he won't, just said he's not going to freely roam Konoha. And how does Tobirama escape it?

If this is going to be your argument, I can safely say that Tobirama shits on Obito just how Minato did.

-Clones act as mobile markings. Tobirama can teleport to them whenever he wants.

I know that.

-Tobirama canonically marked a Kunai, proof enough that he marks his weapons. Not sure why you are saying "Saying he keeps stacks like Minato is baseless conjecture" when nobody ever claimed anything close to that. Unless you want to debate the contents of the ninja pouch being consisted of weapons like Kunai, it's pretty clear to me that Tobirama has more than one Kunai/Shuriken to use, thus he does what I said he'd do and he does it with ease.

You said he tosses Kunai around the surrounding area. Your own argument. He can't do the equivalent of this [

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]. And I already said Tobirama's marked a kunai before, no need to reiterate it. And I know the contents have kunai's, Minato's is different though, which is my point. And again, Tobirama does not lay Kunai's on the field, he uses it as a CQC safety method.

-He can lay down markings of his own on the buildings of the village, or on the ground.

Yes, the few buildings within the flame formation that is. But he can lay his own markings as you said, so there's nothing to dispute here.

Obito comes after him, tries to warp him, gets bamflashed by Tobirama and his clones. If Obito tries to warp away, he gets bamflashed. All his moves get evaded. Obito literally doesn't stand a chance. "Not the same fighting style" as Minato isn't anywhere near enough of an argument to say that Obito wins.

He gets stomped on his own.

This is where you are wrong. Izanagi stops any of Tobirama's bullshit for 10 minutes, effectively ending him in time. Not to mention this Obito is not kid Obito, he is far faster than when he was 15. Don't even see how you are coming to the conclusion that Tobirama will be raping Obito's speed.. Sure he's faster, but saying he far outmatches him is simply unwarranted.

No, he doesn't. I can't really see anyway for Tobirama to bypass Izanagi, but my knowledge on Obito is limited so I may be wrong.

 

[KidGamer65]

Didn't say he won't, just said he's not going to freely roam Konoha. And how does Tobirama escape it?

Never said he was going to freely roam Konoha.


Uh, Hiraishin, just like you stated in your own post.

You said he tosses Kunai around the surrounding area. Your own argument. He can't do the equivalent of this [

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]. And I already said Tobirama's marked a kunai before, no need to reiterate it. And I know the contents have kunai's, Minato's is different though, which is my point. And again, Tobirama does not lay Kunai's on the field, he uses it as a CQC safety method.

Never said that he can. Tossing Kunai around the surrounding area=/=Tossing as many as Minato did.


@bold: Tobirama lays markings around the field, that's a fact. Kunai help him do so, so there is no reason he won't mark his Kunai and toss them around the area. No reason at all.

This is where you are wrong. Izanagi stops any of Tobirama's bullshit for 10 minutes, effectively ending him in time. Not to mention this Obito is not kid Obito,

Lol. Izanagi lets Obito survive 10 minutes longer than he would have without it. Does Izanagi change the fact that Obito can't even touch Tobirama let alone defeat him? Nope. Is Izanagi going to let him outlast Tobirama? Nope. Attrition isn't even a factor here.

So no, nothing ends him time. You haven't even told me how Obito wins.

he is far faster than when he was 15. Don't even see how you are coming to the conclusion that Tobirama will be raping Obito's speed.. Sure he's faster, but saying he far outmatches him is simply unwarranted.

Tobirama's speed feats still dump on Obito's.

-Reacted to JJ Obito and tagged him.

So yes, Obito gets raped low difficulty. He'll never lay a hand on Tobirama during this match. Ever. Meanwhile, Tobirama can lay on a hand on him just how Minato did it, due to superior speed and reactions...far superior speed and reactions.

No, he doesn't. I can't really see anyway for Tobirama to bypass Izanagi, but my knowledge on Obito is limited so I may be wrong.

After 10 minutes, it's GG no re Obito.