Tobirama as a child

[Deadly In Pink]

There were some interesting Madara/Hashirama interactions in this chapter, but getting a glimpse at young Tobirama gave me more insight to his character.

When Hashirama stands up to their father about all of the killing (specifically, the children getting killed) in the war, Tobirama steps protectively between their dad and Hashi, and says that Hashi is just depressed. This seems to calm papa Senju down, and Tobirama successfully maintains peace between his family members and saves Hashi from another shiner.

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Then, when talking about it with Hashi and Itama, Itama questions how an agreement could be made between enemies when both sides have lost people (that's what I got from it, at least). I really didn't except Tobirama to be the one to suggest (indirectly) that vengeful feelings should be forgotten to avoid "useless fighting".

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Obviously something is going to change his mind, I'm guessing it'll be Itama's death. Tobirama has a stoic personality, but in this chapter we saw a soft spot for his siblings. Anyone else find this chapter insightful in regards to Tobirama?

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

I found it insightful as well. I also don't think his personality even changed as much...though Maybee he was more mature or less expressional as he grew up.

He deffinatly repressed his feelings as he managed to give a purpose to the Uchiha despite killing his brother!

My respect for him is pretty much higher than I thought possible....this proves he isn't a Danzo at all

 

[pandu]

Yes.Honestly it surprised me.The reason he maintained such a stoic personality was that he wanted to end the useless fighting and repressed his feelings even though the uchiha killed Itama.

 

[Killer B]

He reminds me of Danzo in lot of ways

 

[Kαmi]

Tobirama is the sh*t as a kid. Despite being the younger brother, he doesn't hesitate in the slightest to step in whether it's with his father and telling his younger brother to avoid useless fighting. I feel that he didn't change too much, it shows that he did nothing but mature since the Uchiha killed his brother. He didn't bare an extreme grudge against them, he just kept his guard up around them because he knew what they were capable of and he didn't want a repeat of what happened to his younger brother. My respect for Tobirama has definitely increased after the chapter, I'm glad Kishi is doing these flashbacks

 

[Codex]

Then, when talking about it with Hashi and Itama, Itama questions how an agreement could be made between enemies when both sides have lost people (that's what I got from it, at least). I really didn't except Tobirama to be the one to suggest (indirectly) that vengeful feelings should be forgotten to avoid "useless fighting".

When you think about it, that statement makes perfect sense coming from Tobirama. His disdain for the Uchiha is rooted in their inability to suppress their feelings. On the other hand, I don't get the impression that he holds a grudge against the Uchiha. Rather, he's sees them as volatile.

Edit: like what Kurokami said.

 

[foxyladyland]

i luved it as well..very insightful..
i luv this flashback

 

[phantom1]

Tobirama is a boss.

 

[Deadly In Pink]

When you think about it, that statement makes perfect sense coming from Tobirama. His disdain for the Uchiha is rooted in their inability to suppress their feelings. On the other hand, I don't get the impression that he holds a grudge against the Uchiha. Rather, he's sees them as volatile.

Edit: like what Kurokami said.

Tobirama is the sh*t as a kid. Despite being the younger brother, he doesn't hesitate in the slightest to step in whether it's with his father and telling his younger brother to avoid useless fighting. I feel that he didn't change too much, it shows that he did nothing but mature since the Uchiha killed his brother. He didn't bare an extreme grudge against them, he just kept his guard up around them because he knew what they were capable of and he didn't want a repeat of what happened to his younger brother. My respect for Tobirama has definitely increased after the chapter, I'm glad Kishi is doing these flashbacks

At first I did think that Tobirama held a huge grudge against the Uchiha, but now that I rethink it, I'm starting to change my mind. He has prejudices against the Uchiha (he definitely hasn't forgiven them) but he did put that aside to keep the peace that his brother and Madara created. I never thought too much about him before, but he's starting to grow on me.

 

[staticdash22]

This is why I respect him a lot more than Hashirama. My respect will undoubtedly drop for Hashi if I find out that he intentionally let madara live, ugh. Tobirama sees things realistically, and that's a guy I could get behind as a leader. Hashirama is great but, he doesn't get the whole picturesometimes. It's not about you, me or them. It's about where we are, and where we are going. Look at how hashirama reacted when he found out minato was the fourth hokage. "ooh a fourth. That means the village has been stable for a while". To me, it seems like Hashi is the type of guy that builds things for a temporary standpoint and he promises to get back to it later. He probably unintentionally put off the problem with the uchiha, ignoring the problem at hand while tobirama had to try and fix it. '

Both hashirama and Tbirama complete each other. Hashirama thinks more about the individuals but forgets the big picture and Tobirama has a habit for forgetting the individuals.

 

[Codex]

Both hashirama and Tbirama complete each other. Hashirama thinks more about the individuals but forgets the big picture and Tobirama has a habit for forgetting the individuals.

So you're saying Hashirama can't see the forest for the trees?

Anyway, I agree. Good points.

 

[eXquisite]

This is why I respect him a lot more than Hashirama. My respect will undoubtedly drop for Hashi if I find out that he intentionally let madara live, ugh. Tobirama sees things realistically, and that's a guy I could get behind as a leader. Hashirama is great but, he doesn't get the whole picturesometimes. It's not about you, me or them. It's about where we are, and where we are going. Look at how hashirama reacted when he found out minato was the fourth hokage. "ooh a fourth. That means the village has been stable for a while". To me, it seems like Hashi is the type of guy that builds things for a temporary standpoint and he promises to get back to it later. He probably unintentionally put off the problem with the uchiha, ignoring the problem at hand while tobirama had to try and fix it. '

Both hashirama and Tbirama complete each other. Hashirama thinks more about the individuals but forgets the big picture and Tobirama has a habit for forgetting the individuals.

I'm guessing you don't like Naruto either then.

 

[Yatori]

Yeah my respect to tobirama increase too

OT: your point is nice and I can say the way this thread going show that u guys post with brain (well you know what I mean)

 

[S A G E]

Tobirama is very mature even at such a young age.

 

[r00r]

His dad was gonna whoop their ass. Just like Uchiha

 

[r00r]

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[Almighty Ra]

Tobirama is the sh*t as a kid. Despite being the younger brother, he doesn't hesitate in the slightest to step in whether it's with his father and telling his younger brother to avoid useless fighting. I feel that he didn't change too much, it shows that he did nothing but mature since the Uchiha killed his brother. He didn't bare an extreme grudge against them, he just kept his guard up around them because he knew what they were capable of and he didn't want a repeat of what happened to his younger brother. My respect for Tobirama has definitely increased after the chapter, I'm glad Kishi is doing these flashbacks

You have a lot of great points but I'd disagree with one point I think his lil brother's death was the catalyst for his grudge against the Uchiha. I see his personality taking on more of his father's aggressive firm hand approach. I think that death was what started his change in personality towards war and more towards the Uchiha. Great read But i also agree with everyone as well my respect for Tobirama has grown after this chapter it was not about his maturity but for the love he has for his older brother that was about to get pounded harder by his father for speaking out.

 

[Ashflura]

He was a kid born with a secret love for preserving humanity, and is still an adult who seeks to see the better for humanity. When you live a life like that, maturity becomes natural and you won't notice much growth in a character, because they've already developed a good mind. What follows is the legend he leaves. And seeing the Edo Tensei and Konoha, we can see that.