[VS] Tobirama and Minato take the gauntlet.

[miromiro]

They clear it.

 

[TheEvilOne]

1. Hidan and Kakuzu

Team S/T rapes.

2. Zetsu and Tobi

Team S/T low diff

3. Orochimaru and Sasori

Team S/T low-mid diff

4. Sasori and Deidara

Team S/T mid diff

5. Pein and Konan

It can go either way

6. Itachi and Kisame

Team S/T high dif

7. MS Sasuke and SM Naruto

Debatable..

8. Sannin

Debatable

9. Kakashi, Gai, Yamato.

Team S/T high diff

10. Hashirama [no Sage Mode]

Hashirama low-mid diff

 

[Red Slayer]

they stops at 3 or 8 or 10

 

[AGoodBoy]

I don't see them passing 6. These 2 have 0 genjutsu feats. We really don't know how good they are at breaking genjutsu. That's extremely essential for fighting Itachi, with kisame there as support to land hits while these guys are hypnotized, this will no doubt be one of the hardest rounds. Imagine Kisame using shark dance while itachi keeps taking pot shots at these guys with genjutsu to immobilze them... ouch.

Apart from round 6, I think they clear TBH.

*Yes, I know tobirama use to fight uchiha but that doesn't mean he has enough genjutsu feats to break itachi's genjutsu seeing as people like itachi and shishui aren't normal when it comes to genjutsu)*

 

[Touken]

I don't see them passing 6. These 2 have 0 genjutsu feats. We really don't know how good they are at breaking genjutsu. That's extremely essential for fighting Itachi, with kisame there as support to land hits while these guys are hypnotized, this will no doubt be one of the hardest rounds. Imagine Kisame using shark dance while itachi keeps taking pot shots at these guys with genjutsu to immobilze them... ouch.

Apart from round 6, I think they clear TBH.

*Yes, I know tobirama use to fight uchiha but that doesn't mean he has enough genjutsu feats to break itachi's genjutsu seeing as people like itachi and shishui aren't normal when it comes to genjutsu)*

Genjutsu Kai requires next to nothing experience, all you need is considerable chakra control which them 2 both have. They can also Kai each other out so I doubt genjutsu will be much of a problem when it's 2 vs. 2.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Genjutsu Kai requires next to nothing experience, all you need is considerable chakra control which them 2 both have. They can also Kai each other out so I doubt genjutsu will be much of a problem when it's 2 vs. 2.

What...? Did you not see when nar uto failed to break itachi's non-sharingan genjutsu kai? Or when orochimaru struggled to break it a chi's sharingan genjutsu paralysis...?
Your point is invalid. The 2 seconds they're under genjutsu would be enough samehade to lock onto them. Not forgetting itachi can drop both of them into genjutsu at the same time. That pretty much nullifies ftg for a while so that kisame could land some heavy damage quickly.

 

[Avinash012]

What...? Did you not see when nar uto failed to break itachi's non-sharingan genjutsu kai? Or when orochimaru struggled to break it a chi's sharingan genjutsu paralysis...?
Your point is invalid. The 2 seconds they're under genjutsu would be enough samehade to lock onto them. Not forgetting itachi can drop both of them into genjutsu at the same time. That pretty much nullifies ftg for a while so that kisame could land some heavy damage quickly.

Itachi has 0 finger genjutsu feats on multiple opponents and for making eye contact Iam pretty sure they are not stupid enough to do that especially when one of them is one of the best sensor out there.
They are fast as well as smart enough to fight while avoiding Genjutsu.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

They stop at 10.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Itachi has 0 finger genjutsu feats on multiple opponents and for making eye contact Iam pretty sure they are not stupid enough to do that especially when one of them is one of the best sensor out there.
They are fast as well as smart enough to fight while avoiding Genjutsu.

Who ever said he can place multiple people in genjutsu with finger gen? Who even mentioned using finger genjutsu on them?
Itachi drops them in sharingan genjutsu just so you don't misunderstand again.

 

[Touken]

What...? Did you not see when nar uto failed to break itachi's non-sharingan genjutsu kai? Or when orochimaru struggled to break it a chi's sharingan genjutsu paralysis...?
Your point is invalid. The 2 seconds they're under genjutsu would be enough samehade to lock onto them. Not forgetting itachi can drop both of them into genjutsu at the same time. That pretty much nullifies ftg for a while so that kisame could land some heavy damage quickly.

-Naruto's chakra control is awful.
-Orochimaru almost broke it but Itachi cut off his hand.
-Itachi can't drop them both into genjutsu either.

As Pat's said, they stop at Hashirama.

 

[AGoodBoy]

-Naruto's chakra control is awful.
-Orochimaru almost broke it but Itachi cut off his hand.
-Itachi can't drop them both into genjutsu either.

As Pat's said, they stop at Hashirama.

Just re-read your second point. If you don't understand why I'm asking you to, Re-read it again, and again and again until you realize what you just said and how it applies to what you just quoted.

Your last point doesn't make sense. It's already established he can put multiple people in a genjutsu at the same time.

 

[Avinash012]

Who ever said he can place multiple people in genjutsu with finger gen? Who even mentioned using finger genjutsu on them?
Itachi drops them in sharingan genjutsu just so you don't misunderstand again.

I didn't misunderstand it, I know that u didn't mention that but the chances of both of them making an eye contact at the same time especially when we are talking about Tobirama and Minato are nearly equal to 0%,it might work on fodders but not on top dogs,so Itachi's only option to place gen on both of the at the same time is finger Genjutsu that's y I said that about finger genjutsu.

Hell they are on the same level /probably above Itachi in every department especially smartness ,it is beyond me if u think Itachi can place Gen on both of them at the same time.

 

[Touken]

Just re-read your second point. If you don't understand why I'm asking you to, Re-read it again, and again and again until you realize what you just said and how it applies to what you just quoted.

Your last point doesn't make sense. It's already established he can put multiple people in a genjutsu at the same time.

This is a 2 vs. 2 and not separate 1 vs. 1s. I highly doubt Itachi's gonna have the time to slice off any of their hands, especially when they can teleport around the place.

Minato & Tobirama will mark each other and so if one of them needs help, the other comes to their rescue.

Don't be mean either. Being mean's not nice.

 

[AGoodBoy]

I didn't misunderstand it, I know that u didn't mention that but the chances of both of them making an eye contact at the same time especially when we are talking about Tobirama and Minato are nearly equal to 0%,it might work on fodders but not on top dogs,so Itachi's only option to place gen on both of the at the same time is finger Genjutsu that's y I said that about finger genjutsu.

Hell they are on the same level /probably above Itachi in every department especially smartness ,it is beyond me if u think Itachi can place Gen on both of them at the same time.

what...? Where do you even get that they're even remotely smarter than itachi? nothing even suggests this... It's already established that people like Itachi and Kakashi are freaking geniuses. Minato and Tobirama can only equal that intellect, not surpass that. Especially with their subpar feats in intelligence by comparison to kakashi and itachi... Itachi can predict your movement off sheer emotion and just knowing who you are, but he can't place them both in a genjutsu... ?The alone right there + sharingan precog gives Itachi almost a 100% chance of setting them up to a perfect opportunity to catch them in a multi genjutsu. It's only their intelligence that doesn't make it an undisputed 100% fact.

Anyway, I see where you're coming from now. However, It doesn't matter if they look into itachi's eyes. There's a very very very overlooked aspect of itachi's fighting style that most people either don't know, or have forgotten.

• We know that itachi is capable of bursting into crows whenever he's hit. This is usually under the illusion of his genjutsu's however, it can also be used without
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  . Though the fact that it was used on kabuto (immune to genjutsu) should already cement this fact,
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  scan also helps cement it. As we can see, The feathers from the birds were completely visible to taka who later entered the room, meaning this was no illusion sasuke was under.
  
• We also know that Itachi can also summon[
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  ] these crows himself at his own will, thereby offering another means of bringing these crows onto the battlefield.
  
• The last point to note is that, we know that this crow jutsu is a konoha jutsu. Therefore, Tobirama and minato(possibly) know about this crow summoning jutsu. However, the way it's implemented in konoha is in the form of a
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  so that the user may find time to
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  , run into cover or perform a
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  ; With the birds able to take on
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  fashion at the caster's whim.

Now, Let's put that all together. So, Itachi's able to use these crows in one of three ways.
1) He can use it the normal way in that he shuushins in at blinding speed to drop the opponent into a tsukuyomi. This was done so fast that even a sharingan user was completely left in

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. If this method is done on one of them, they're instantly out of that battle. All itachi needs to do is take cover behind kisame for a while to rest up while he distracts the remaining one for a while.

2) Itachi can just make

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. Seeing as this is a complete itachi original, itachi would have been bursting into crows the entire fight to really give them no reason to suspect this, and this is a konoha jutsu not meant for this purpose, These two wouldn't be suspecting this at all. The biggest point to notice is that said crow doesn't even need to get close, it just needs to get it's sharingan into their line of sight. So, if they decide they want to look at itachi's feet, he simple moves the sharingan crow near his foot and they're now in his genjutsu.

3) He can use 1 and 2 together to place both of them under genjutsu with one being placed with method 1 while the other is placed with method 2.

At that point, they're in sharingan genjutsu. All kisame needs to do is Toss a GSB and the fight is over.

This is a 2 vs. 2 and not separate 1 vs. 1s. I highly doubt Itachi's gonna have the time to slice off any of their hands, especially when they can teleport around the place.

Minato & Tobirama will mark each other and so if one of them needs help, the other comes to their rescue.

Don't be mean either. Being mean's not nice.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be mean.

Like I said, If they're both under genjutsu that's pretty pointless. I know this is a 2 v 1, hence why I said a multiple genjutsu. If they're in a genjutsu, they can FTG all they want, but they'll be ftg'ing in itachi's genjutsu world while their real body is stationary until they break the genjutsu. During that time, Kisame can come in. I'm not saying it's a 1 shot start of the fight thing, because it depends on several factors such as;

-Catching them both in genjutsu
-Catching them in genjutsu while they have no shadow clones out
-Holding them in genjutsu long enough to allow itachi/kisame to dish some damage -> Which is dependent on how well they are at breaking genjutsu.

Like I said, they clear this gauntlet IMO, it's just number 6 that I think would be the hardest part and that they might actually be able to lose at. Yes, and I think they'd beat even hashi together. Tobirama's water slicing jutsu and kibakufuda will be a ***** for Hashirama. Adding in minato help tobirama just run around him with FTG makes it highly likely they can take him out.

 

[Touken]

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be mean.

Like I said, If they're both under genjutsu that's pretty pointless. I know this is a 2 v 1, hence why I said a multiple genjutsu. If they're in a genjutsu, they can FTG all they want, but they'll be ftg'ing in itachi's genjutsu world while their real body is stationary until they break the genjutsu. During that time, Kisame can come in. I'm not saying it's a 1 shot start of the fight thing, because it depends on several factors such as;

-Catching them both in genjutsu
-Catching them in genjutsu while they have no shadow clones out
-Holding them in genjutsu long enough to allow itachi/kisame to dish some damage -> Which is dependent on how well they are at breaking genjutsu.

It's cool.

Ah, I thought you weren't taking those factors into considerations. Fair points.

 

[Rosae]

The duo will have occasional spots of difficulty, but I believe that they'll clear it in the end.

 

[KidGamer65]

They would stop at Hashirama.

 

[Draphsin]

They would stop at Hashirama.

Just wondering how you expect them to get past obito with the gedo statue?

 

[KidGamer65]

Just wondering how you expect them to get past obito with the gedo statue?

lmao, didn't even see him there....I assumed Tobi meant MS Obito. Though if it means Rinnegan Obito he'd win.

 

[Draphsin]

lmao, didn't even see him there....I assumed Tobi meant MS Obito. Though if it means Rinnegan Obito he'd win.

Yeah I was confused at first as well, that's why I asked. Lol