Tobirama and Jiraiya vs Sasori and Kisame

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Start out in Long range.
Intent to kill.
Knowledge is full.

I think team one wins.
 

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How so? Jiraiya > Kisame and I believe Tobirama can at least hold off Sasori until Jiraiya is done.
 

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With knowledge sasori is at a major disadvantage. They know all his tricks now. It's pretty much 2v 1
 

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How so? Jiraiya > Kisame and I believe Tobirama can at least hold off Sasori until Jiraiya is done.

Well.. I can't speak for Sasori, but I don't see how Jiraiya is going to beat Kisame.
 

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How so? Jiraiya > Kisame and I believe Tobirama can at least hold off Sasori until Jiraiya is done.

If you didn't know how to use a gun proficiently, I would threaten you right now.
 

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If you didn't know how to use a gun proficiently, I would threaten you right now.

Lol I would never shoot a Billy.

Well.. I can't speak for Sasori, but I don't see how Jiraiya is going to beat Kisame.

Easy. Jiraiya summons Bunta, and any water Kisame manages to create gets evaporated by the Oil + Fire combo.
 

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Depends on the starting modes. If Jiraiya is already in Sennin Modo, team 1 is assured a win. But if he isn't, Team 2 would swiftly take this.
 

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Jiraiya doesn't start in Sage Mode. But how does team one lose even with Base Jiraiya.
 

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Easy. Jiraiya summons Bunta, and any water Kisame manages to create gets evaporated by the Oil + Fire combo.

You sure about that? Daikōdan [GSB] absorbs chakra and grows stronger. [ ] Taking a direct hit from Daikōdan after absorbing Jiraiya and Bunta's combo-attack, would be too much.
 

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You sure about that? Daikōdan [GSB] absorbs chakra and grows stronger. [ ] Taking a direct hit from Daikōdan after absorbing Jiraiya and Bunta's combo-attack, would be too much.

That would be nice, but Kisame needs the water dome to use that technique. Oil + Fire evaporates any water that Kisame spews out, along with Kisame himself.

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That would be nice, but Kisame needs the water dome to use that technique. Oil + Fire evaporates any water that Kisame spews out, along with Kisame himself.

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No he doesn't? And like Kisame said, the stronger the jutsu, the stronger GSB becomes.
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sasori and kisame takes this.

Since knowledge is full, jiraiya's genjutsu is not going to work.
Iron sand is going to cause a lot of problem here. One single touch of iron sand can be dangerous because of the poision.
Kisame's ninjutsu absorbing shark bullets takes on anything jiraiya/tobirama has to throw.

i don't see how tobirama and jiraiya wins this.
 

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No he doesn't? And like Kisame said, the stronger the jutsu, the stronger GSB becomes.
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I thought it required at least a water source or water dome. Are you sure?
 

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I thought it required at least a water source or water dome. Are you sure?

It never required a water source, it was just used in one. There's no reason to why he can't use GSB without a water source either; he does have a massive amount of chakra..
 

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It never required a water source, it was just used in one. There's no reason to why he can't use GSB without a water source either; he does have a massive amount of chakra..

Then it requires a water source. It does not matter how much chakra one has to use the moisture in the air to form Suiton attacks, but their skill in that area and how big the attack is.
 

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Then it requires a water source. It does not matter how much chakra one has to use the moisture in the air to form Suiton attacks, but their skill in that area and how big the attack is.

I don't see why he can't spit the water out of his mouth. He barfed up lakes on a 30% clone.
 

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Then it requires a water source. It does not matter how much chakra one has to use the moisture in the air to form Suiton attacks, but their skill in that area and how big the attack is.

WD didn't require a water source, but Kisame had no trouble using the technique and it's even bigger than GSB. [ - ] Not to mention, he created a lake using only 30% of his chakra. [ ] I see him having no trouble using GSB, even if a water source isn't required. Seeing as he's the best Suiton user in the manga.
 
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