Tobimara vs Ohniki

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Tobirama will pull the win, simpe Oonoki can't touch Tobirama.
 

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Onoki's Jinton was stated to be powerful enough to blow up the turtle island, which dwarfs Bijuu. Tobirama no where has Kunai that can reach outside that size.

Onoki low diff.
 

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Onoki's Jinton was stated to be powerful enough to blow up the turtle island, which dwarfs Bijuu. Tobirama no where has Kunai that can reach outside that size.

Onoki low diff.

What is the biggest Jinton he has produced by himself?
 

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No, the biggest he ever used. Not hype.

Hype is when someone's abilities have been praised, but yet to be showed. For this case, its not a hype, because Onoki was charging a Jinton and he was stopped. He in fact said he had to fly all the way up to use it.

There is no hype. Its a fact.
 

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Hype is when someone's abilities have been praised, but yet to be showed. For this case, its not a hype, because Onoki was charging a Jinton and he was stopped. He in fact said he had to fly all the way up to use it.

There is no hype. Its a fact.

It is hype. The big nosed fellow said it could destroy the whole turtle, and it was not shown.

I am asking what is the biggest shown jinton Onoki has.
 

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Tough one. Onoki has flight to get outta Tobirama's range and Jinton that covers such wide area that even FTG won't save him. But on the other hand Tobirama might not give Onoki a chance to even set things up. I'm torn.
 

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It is hype. The big nosed fellow said it could destroy the whole turtle, and it was not shown.

I am asking what is the biggest shown jinton Onoki has.

Okay then.

If I had a gun and I was going to shoot someone, and then someone stops me saying I will end up killing, then I stop. Is that a hype? Lol.
 

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Okay then.

If I had a gun and I was going to shoot someone, and then someone stops me saying I will end up killing, then I stop. Is that a hype? Lol.

I am just saying he has not shown any Jinton big enough to completely vaporize the island turtle in flash backs or fights so far. Could be a translation error, because the turtle would have died just not been completely vaporized.
 

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I am just saying he has not shown any Jinton big enough to completely vaporize the island turtle in flash backs or fights so far. Could be a translation error, because the turtle would have died just not been completely vaporized.

This is the Viz translation:

Akatsuchi: If you unleash that here, you'll destroy turtle Island!!
Onoki: Bah!! so what!! It's just a big rock, after all!!
 

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FTG > jinton

Onoki's jinton isn't FASTER than juubito

Plus he has low stamina, unlike tobirama
 

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This is the Viz translation:

Akatsuchi: If you unleash that here, you'll destroy turtle Island!!
Onoki: Bah!! so what!! It's just a big rock, after all!!

I know what the VIZ says. It doesn't make sense. What is his biggest Jinton that he has been shown using?

Even if Onoki could use a Jinton that big, Tobirama wouldn't let him charge it.
 

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I know what the VIZ says. It doesn't make sense. What is his biggest Jinton that he has been shown using?

Even if Onoki could use a Jinton that big, Tobirama wouldn't let him charge it.

Big=/=Powerful. Jinton may had been small, but its atoms were powerful enough.

And what long range techniques does Tobirama have?
 

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I know what the VIZ says. It doesn't make sense. What is his biggest Jinton that he has been shown using?

Even if Onoki could use a Jinton that big, Tobirama wouldn't let him charge it.

The one he against Edo Madara. And Edo Madara himself fully knew he was capable of dodging it, he purposelessly let himself get nicked by it. With that in mind, someone on Tobirama's level of speed should have no problem.
 

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Big=/=Powerful. Jinton may had been small, but its atoms were powerful enough.

And what long range techniques does Tobirama have?

I thought you were saying his Jinton would be big enough to engulf the whole island. I know it can destroy the turtle the same way he did with the trees, but I thought you meant it would just envelop the whole turtle.

Suidanha, Suiryūdan, and FTG variants.
 

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I thought you were saying his Jinton would be big enough to engulf the whole island. I know it can destroy the turtle the same way he did with the trees, but I thought you meant it would just envelop the whole turtle.

Suidanha, Suiryūdan, and FTG variants.

Akatsuchi did say he will he end up destroying the turtle island, and Onoki agreed. So, they were talking as whole.

None of those have enough range to someone who can fly. Especially, when we don't how long they can reach. And Onoki can dodge them while charging Jinton.
 

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This whole match depends on the starting distance.

Presuming that Onoki starts off hovering at a low level, then Tobirama being the quick to act type, he gets close to Onoki and tags him which pretty much ends it anyway.

If Onoki starts up high in the sky, then Tobirama still has many options revolving around the use of tagged kunai and his Suiryūdan. Using the aforementioned to propel each other upwards closing in on Onoki.

Even if those tactics fail, Tobirama can play the long game and outlast him. And then we mustn't forget that Onoki's best Jinton feat was dodge-able by Edo Madara, who is slower than Pre-Jin Madara, of whom Tobirama was capable of dodging thanks to his own speed.
 
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Tobirama > Tobimara > Muu > Oonoki
 
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