Tobi was never meant to Obito

[Cyclical]

Oh NB, how you continue to be a place of comedy.

 

[Geroge86]

when minato fought tobi kakashi was still a kid, so that means obito was also a kid so that means obito is now like in his 50's

Not if he had a Zetsu body but when Kakashi is at Rin's grave revealing the top secret about Naruto being born outside the village Kakashi looked to be about 17-18 so Obito would be around that age as well which would make him the appropriate size Tobi was

 

[dark legion]

tobi was not meant to be Obito.do you remember when tobi showed his face to Kisame
at that moment KISAME said:I SHALL BETTER CALL YOU MADARA """
than after some series when KISAME Died ,masashi kishimoto showed us another way how KISAME and TOBI met each other .in that episode KISMAE MET MADARA in the same time when he took SAMEHADA .
this is a proof that Masashi Kishimoto has no plan about connection betwen series

 

[KuroNero]

Guys. Orange Goggles, Orange Mask. Crushed body on one side, not so much on the other. He was designed from day one to be Obito. Get over it! Is it poor writing? Yeah. Do things you plan always turn out, in a story, as epic as you had hoped? No. This issue has LONG since died. Tobi is, and always was, Obito. I always said he was a zetsu, and I was close to correct. Now quit whining because you're 36 and a 16 year old's shounen no longer stimulates you the way it used to...

I mean no offense, truly, but come on guys, honestly, get over it. Oh... and for the record... My final theory was ALMOST 100% correct. I theorised that Orochimaru had been keeping Madara alive and that he found Obito, enclosed him in a Zetsu body (neither a black or white one), and manipulated him. I'm sure I'll hear a lot of "I was closer" or "my idea was better"'s but the fact remains this was not intended to be read by people who want a psychological thriller. Live and learn!

tobi was not meant to be Obito.do you remember when tobi showed his face to Kisame
at that moment KISAME said:I SHALL BETTER CALL YOU MADARA """
than after some series when KISAME Died ,masashi kishimoto showed us another way how KISAME and TOBI met each other .in that episode KISMAE MET MADARA in the same time when he took SAMEHADA .
this is a proof that Masashi Kishimoto has no plan about connection betwen series

He was calling himself Madara, and was the one who was controlling the Mizukage with his Sharingan, thus earning Kisame's respect, thus proving...nothing. No offense, I do not mean to be rude.

Welcome to the base, btw!

 

[AlexXx]

WRONG! He was always Obito, we were too naive or too over confident in him not being Obito. And for the most part he was Madara, he played that role perfectly, he needed Madara's name to do the things he did.

I hated it at first too, but then I saw the genius of it all through the flash backs and couldn't help but wonder how I never expected this.


Tobi and Kakashi had very similar Mangekyou powers too. That part was a dead give away.

agree with him.

 

[Sebastian Rikudou Sennin]

Tobi is obito Because since when he has not gotten his rinnegan he used a mask for one eye only,Because he don't want to show his another eye that has been given to kakashi,and if he is madara have you seen him using his mangekyo sharinggan???

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

tobi was meant to be obito sadly

should have been someone else because not his reasons but his actions that make obito 1 of the most fail villains

 

[ReeseKage]

Well as far as his personality goes, I think it's mainly because obito fused with the white zetsu. Remember that zetsu had a mind of its own. I don't think it was a personality switch, I think it was jus obito speaking under the influence of the zetsu.

 

[lucky3able]

Yeah i know this thread should be outdated but by re-reading some mangapages, i found this one and i still find it hard to believe it's Obito who was talking here

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Like really? :sy: Kishi changed Tobi's identity at the last minute. I'm sure of it xd

He was just saying that to imitate madara,what did you want him to say? Am going to revenge rin and kill kakashi? If he had said something or even sounded like himself minato would have known he was the one,he was his sensei after all it was clearly stated that the plan was for him to pretend to be madara.yeah I don't really like kishi's reason for obito turning bad but it has always been clear that obito was tobi and not a later changed character

 

[Chatte]

Now that I think of it, he did plan.
What Kishi did, was just narrative feint.... He had this planned aaaall along!

 

[KnightofChaos]

someone explain what element of surprise would it bring if someone else were to be tobi instead of obit? i mean i dont think all the other candidates has a stronger impact than obito brings.

 

[lIlIlIl]

You see Kishi meant the series to end with the Pain arc, that is why Obito was with Minato and Rin when Kakashi saw them in the afterlife, but Kishi decided to continue the story.

he wouldnt of ended the series before naruto had full control of the nine tails or killed it, and there was like 5 villains left after nagato. there was obito, zetzu, kabuto, the akatzuki shark villain ( i cant believe i forgot his name ), sasuke and you could count danzo and nine tails a villain if u want, but thats all the villains that i could of think of after nagato died

 

[chOn33z]

I don't really get what's so hard to believe about tobi always being madara. It all makes sense to me. In the first place something as important to kakashi as obito and rin I doubr kishi would do all of that just for the kakashi chronicles alone and that's the end of their story. Plus kishi always had everything planned so far ahead from the get go everything was already written before he even started the manga. Also it showed obito lost one sharingan and I doubt that it would be just a coincidence that tobi had only 1 sharingan and 1 eye hole in his mask. Also same hair and he said that zetsu was his clone and zetsu looks just like an older obito. Also before the flash back fight with obito and minato kakashi tried to use kamui on obito when they were fighting sasuke and for some reason it didn't work on him. Then u say that after reading that manga page from when he was talking to minato that its hard to believe that he was always obito but I mean u really don't think that he would talk and act like that after hangin out with madara after all these years?? Tobitobitobitobito. Say tobi over and over it says obito over and over lol

 

[Noob Davies]

Tobi was originally going to be Tenten. It's obvious.

 

[GameOv3r]

Tobi was always meant to be Obito. Half his body was covered with some kind of armor, he had one eye-hole in the mask (right eye), he acted strange around Kakashi (Pretty much avoiding him it seemed like), then revealed a sharingan. The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is why hide his other eye that was just a stolen sharingan? Why didn't he just have 2 eye-holes?

 

[GiantShuriken]

I agree with the OP. Kishi picked Obito because he wanted to make a big splash in ep 600. He didn't care if it made sense or was consistent with the rest of the manga.

 

[narutojet]

dont think so..............

 

[OcularProwess]

Most of you are idiots, saying kishimoto cant write yet youre up here everyday hating his work, Such Insolence

 

[b7718]

I just want to throw one last wrench into this Tobi/Obito dilemma. If it was all planned out in advance:

1. Why didn't Obito use wood release against Minato?

2. If he was planning on killing Minato, what difference would it had made if he told him who he really was? - If anything it would have put Minato off balance, and he could have taken advantage of it.

 

[ghostsoldier3]

Seriously, I'm tired of saying this. Since Tobi attacked Konoha we saw his mongekyo sharingan which was the same as kakashi's which we saw before. This is absolute proof that Tobi was always meant to be Obito.

If you're talking about far later down the road when we clearly saw they had the same mangekyo then fine. But if its earlier when he was fighting the konoha team you are wrong - it was a normal sharingan meaning at that point in time it could have been ANY uchiha. The moment when obito said to kakashi that, that jutsu wouldn't work on him I got suspicious and thought that obito was a possibility or more likely that it was his eye. The reason many find its crap is cuz it didn't seem to work out well as obito. Most of kishi's stuff is not ridiculously obvious as that was, which is why many didn't want to believe this was the case. Plus to top it off - the whole madara being a shell of himself made sense with respect to him swapping body parts here and there and hence it was atleast believable that the eye could have been obito's rather than him completely being obito. It's obvious he really intended someone else at first but due to the overkill of tobi - obito people he gravitated that way. Just like I have a funny feeling naruto will end up with hinata - why? cuz guess what an overkill of naruhina fans there too. Maybe I'm wrong but that's jus how it seemed to me. Oh it also took away from the finality of obito's death and its meaning...he literally passed on something to kakashi who passed the message on to naruto - now that message jus seems to have little meaning, like a load of crock...anywho jus my opinion.