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Why would Naruto need to use the death reaper seal? Naruto is Jinchuuriki
Do you not remember Minato said he is going to use that sealing technique since he was not a Jinchuuriki
Hinting that there is a sealing technique just as powerful for a Jinchuuriki to only use
Tobi is definitely Kagami Uchiha ,I mean the guy hinted/lied a little about it himself when he said this in the first panel
Also look at the picture;you notice that 2 people are missing from that first panel pictures right ? The first one is Torifu Akimichi ,while the other is Uchiha Kagami.We can rule out Torifu because he's not an Uchiha but an Akimichi (Choji's clan), so that brings us to Kagami Uchiha who has the sharingan and he was one of the elders whom you'd expect to know about the massacre.
I think that from the first moment Tobirama chose to be the sacrifice in that war and making Hiruzen the hokage he decided to think of a plan that would end a hate, war .....etc
This is incomplete.xd
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I think that from the first moment Tobirama chose to be the sacrifice in that war and making Hiruzen the hokage he decided to think of a plan that would end a hate, war .....etc
This is incomplete.xd
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Tobi is obviously Kagami
I have been reading many of the threads and frankly, isn't it obvious enough that Tobi is Kagami? Let's gather the information we know about him.
Firstly off, remember the agreement made between Tobi and Itachi to spare Konoha. Tobi agreed to help him kill the Uchiha instead, because apparently he wanted revenge on them for having betrayed him "decades ago". Decades, that makes him an old guy, don't you think? I don't think Shisui would have said anything of the sort, for example.
Yeah, he claims to have been betrayed by the Uchiha. Last I checked, none of the other possible identities for Tobi were betrayed by their clan, except Madara himself.
We've seen two of Tobirama's students (Danzo and Hiruzen), where is the third one gone? Uchiha's don't simply go missing like that.
Mei says Tobi thinks like Danzo. Of course, since they were both in the same team, both went through war, saw their master die, and none of them became Hokage. Hiruzen became the 3rd so he had other things to worry about than forcing peace on the world.
On the same topic, Tobi uses space-time jutsu just like his master, Tobirama. He surpassed his master, like every other apprentice in the series does. Which is why he could read Minato's moves later on. The "Tobi" is a reference to his master's name.
Kisame knew who he was. And Kisame was a veteran rogue ninja, a bit like Orochimaru in some way. He got around by the high ranked leaders and veterans. Just like Orochimaru knew Danzo very well, it wouldn't surprise me less that Kisame also knew Kagami's true identity.
Not the best argument but worth mentioning, they have the same haircut & physical aspect (both seem to be pretty tall).
And finally, who else could he be otherwise? By now every other solution seems gone.
-He can't be Shisui because their sharingan have different abilities, and both of Shisui's sharingan have been found/destroyed already.
-He can't be Madara because as we've all seen, Madara is dead.
-He can't be Obito for many, many reasons.
-All the other Uchiha have been killed anyway, while Kagami hasn't been seen not even during the Kyuubi attack...
I had other things in mind but not coming back right now. You'll see, he is Kagami
I have been reading many of the threads and frankly, isn't it obvious enough that Tobi is Kagami? Let's gather the information we know about him.
Firstly off, remember the agreement made between Tobi and Itachi to spare Konoha. Tobi agreed to help him kill the Uchiha instead, because apparently he wanted revenge on them for having betrayed him "decades ago". Decades, that makes him an old guy, don't you think? I don't think Shisui would have said anything of the sort, for example.
Yeah, he claims to have been betrayed by the Uchiha. Last I checked, none of the other possible identities for Tobi were betrayed by their clan, except Madara himself.
We've seen two of Tobirama's students (Danzo and Hiruzen), where is the third one gone? Uchiha's don't simply go missing like that.
Mei says Tobi thinks like Danzo. Of course, since they were both in the same team, both went through war, saw their master die, and none of them became Hokage. Hiruzen became the 3rd so he had other things to worry about than forcing peace on the world.
On the same topic, Tobi uses space-time jutsu just like his master, Tobirama. He surpassed his master, like every other apprentice in the series does. Which is why he could read Minato's moves later on. The "Tobi" is a reference to his master's name.
Kisame knew who he was. And Kisame was a veteran rogue ninja, a bit like Orochimaru in some way. He got around by the high ranked leaders and veterans. Just like Orochimaru knew Danzo very well, it wouldn't surprise me less that Kisame also knew Kagami's true identity.
Not the best argument but worth mentioning, they have the same haircut & physical aspect (both seem to be pretty tall).
And finally, who else could he be otherwise? By now every other solution seems gone.
-He can't be Shisui because their sharingan have different abilities, and both of Shisui's sharingan have been found/destroyed already.
-He can't be Madara because as we've all seen, Madara is dead.
-He can't be Obito for many, many reasons.
-All the other Uchiha have been killed anyway, while Kagami hasn't been seen not even during the Kyuubi attack...
I had other things in mind but not coming back right now. You'll see, he is Kagami
EnvyMyApex
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Re: Tobi is obviously Kagami
There's no solid information that he is. Post this in the official Tobi ID thread next time...
There's no solid information that he is. Post this in the official Tobi ID thread next time...
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Re: Tobi is obviously Kagami
Who is kagami? An unknown uchiha who has nothing to do with the story.
Who is kagami? An unknown uchiha who has nothing to do with the story.
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So, if Tobi is really Kagami, then why is he trying to literally control the world?
Would his sensei, Tobirama Senju truly promote such ideals into the minds of his students?
And don't bring up Danzo and how he ended up; He ended up a snake because of his insecurity and envy of the third hokage.
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There are some other really well thought out theories as to who or what Tobi is, you should read up on them.
So, if Tobi is really Kagami, then why is he trying to literally control the world?
Would his sensei, Tobirama Senju truly promote such ideals into the minds of his students?
And don't bring up Danzo and how he ended up; He ended up a snake because of his insecurity and envy of the third hokage.
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There are some other really well thought out theories as to who or what Tobi is, you should read up on them.
Zayon Uchiha
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Re: Tobi is obviously Kagami
He was also probably born early enough to have known Madara, who might have shared his Eye of the Moon plan with him.
Why he is trying to control the world? Because he has the same beliefs as Danzo, but also the power to do it. They both believe strict order is the key for peace, no matter the costs.
Easy, he was traumatized by war and his sensei's death. Might believe Konoha is indeed provoking the wars, just like Nagato.
He was also probably born early enough to have known Madara, who might have shared his Eye of the Moon plan with him.
Why he is trying to control the world? Because he has the same beliefs as Danzo, but also the power to do it. They both believe strict order is the key for peace, no matter the costs.
my little theory about tobi
well i wasn't really interested in this topic but when making a prediction this idea comes to mind
you'll found the theory in the last part of 591: the truth behind the mask
well i wasn't really interested in this topic but when making a prediction this idea comes to mind
in order to reach immotality madara created an ultime clone of himself and this clone is tobi... he used perfect izanagi with sacrifising both of his eyes at the same time to create tobi something alive in order to complete his plan moon-eye anyway searching for perfection tobi implanted hashi's cells and he awekned rinnegan well it seems like he's not complet yet to be the SO6P he need the juubi so that's why hecall himyself NO ONE ...
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you'll found the theory in the last part of 591: the truth behind the mask
Re: Tobi is obviously Kagami
You say he can't be obito for many reasons but I can only think of one, he is too oldI have been reading many of the threads and frankly, isn't it obvious enough that Tobi is Kagami? Let's gather the information we know about him.
Firstly off, remember the agreement made between Tobi and Itachi to spare Konoha. Tobi agreed to help him kill the Uchiha instead, because apparently he wanted revenge on them for having betrayed him "decades ago". Decades, that makes him an old guy, don't you think? I don't think Shisui would have said anything of the sort, for example.
Yeah, he claims to have been betrayed by the Uchiha. Last I checked, none of the other possible identities for Tobi were betrayed by their clan, except Madara himself.
We've seen two of Tobirama's students (Danzo and Hiruzen), where is the third one gone? Uchiha's don't simply go missing like that.
Mei says Tobi thinks like Danzo. Of course, since they were both in the same team, both went through war, saw their master die, and none of them became Hokage. Hiruzen became the 3rd so he had other things to worry about than forcing peace on the world.
On the same topic, Tobi uses space-time jutsu just like his master, Tobirama. He surpassed his master, like every other apprentice in the series does. Which is why he could read Minato's moves later on. The "Tobi" is a reference to his master's name.
Kisame knew who he was. And Kisame was a veteran rogue ninja, a bit like Orochimaru in some way. He got around by the high ranked leaders and veterans. Just like Orochimaru knew Danzo very well, it wouldn't surprise me less that Kisame also knew Kagami's true identity.
Not the best argument but worth mentioning, they have the same haircut & physical aspect (both seem to be pretty tall).
And finally, who else could he be otherwise? By now every other solution seems gone.
-He can't be Shisui because their sharingan have different abilities, and both of Shisui's sharingan have been found/destroyed already.
-He can't be Madara because as we've all seen, Madara is dead.
-He can't be Obito for many, many reasons.
-All the other Uchiha have been killed anyway, while Kagami hasn't been seen not even during the Kyuubi attack...
I had other things in mind but not coming back right now. You'll see, he is Kagami
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Re: Tobi is obviously Kagami
Izuna.
Kagami was seen during the Kyuubi attack so no it's not possible.
Izuna.
Kagami was seen during the Kyuubi attack so no it's not possible.
Re: my little theory about tobi
its plausible but not probable i mean that wouldnt really make sense i seen way to many predictions on this topic and i heard a couple good ones one of the best ones was about tobi being a son of the 6 paths that used his eyes to go to a diff dimension so he doesnt age
but kishi is going to tell all wont he
its plausible but not probable i mean that wouldnt really make sense i seen way to many predictions on this topic and i heard a couple good ones one of the best ones was about tobi being a son of the 6 paths that used his eyes to go to a diff dimension so he doesnt age
but kishi is going to tell all wont he
Re: Tobi is obviously Kagami
Wow this just blew my mind haha, I can't believe of all the theories I have surmised and all the people I thought Tobi to be this has not been a spec of a thought in my mind! Truly awesome, It makes sense, and the timeline actually fits, plus the whole Tobi:Tobirama connects so perfectly.
Wow this just blew my mind haha, I can't believe of all the theories I have surmised and all the people I thought Tobi to be this has not been a spec of a thought in my mind! Truly awesome, It makes sense, and the timeline actually fits, plus the whole Tobi:Tobirama connects so perfectly.
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