[Theory] Tobi: Thread for all Tobi theories and related discussions .

Who do you think Tobi is:

  • Jubbi

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Sage of Six Paths

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Elder son of Sage of Sixth Path

    Votes: 65 9.3%
  • Izuna uchiha

    Votes: 105 15.0%
  • Kagami uchiha

    Votes: 71 10.1%
  • Obito Uchiha

    Votes: 77 11.0%
  • Fugaku Uchiha

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Zetsu

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Madara's split personality (created before original body died.)

    Votes: 66 9.4%
  • A copycat whose rolemodel is Madara.

    Votes: 13 1.9%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • An unknown Uchiha

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Real Madara in Zetsu body

    Votes: 28 4.0%
  • Some one from Madara's time ( can't decide though)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Danzou

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • Setsuna Uchiha

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Shisui

    Votes: 14 2.0%
  • An Uzumaki

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • Madara's Son

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • A woman

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Obito's father

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Someone Other than these

    Votes: 24 3.4%
  • First Edo tensie

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • An alien ( Superman/ HeMan/whatnot)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • I am the best. I have no theory. ( Not anymore at least.)

    Votes: 22 3.1%

  • Total voters
    700
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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

I finally know who Tobi is.... but I do not recognize him. I have stumbled upon this image from Manga 551, page 17.

Spoiler alert, I think :)... Folks, do any of you recognize this guy?

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He looks like an older version of Shisui or Obito - maybe Danzo. I'm still deadset on him being Shisui though...
 
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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

what's the theory?
Dude, your Tobi theory is brilliant. It just needs some tweaks and detail like this;

Madara Uchiha was the first man to unlock the Mangekyo Sharingan.

He learned about it after discovering the Uchiha Stone Tablet and reading it with his three Tomoe Sharingan.

After killing a close ally of his, he unlocked it.

Wanting to keep the title of strongest Uchiha and his position as leader stable, Madara kept the Mangekyo secret (how to unlock it).

He only told Izuna since the two were close.

Eventually, Madara begins to lose his vision. He goes completely blind. Izuna fears that losing such a great Uchiha like him will tip the odds against the other Shinobi clans, so before it gets out to the other clans, Izuna tries to discover a way to help his brother.

Izuna remembers how Madara figured about the Mangekyo!

He goes the Uchiha Stone Tablet (location provided by Madara) and reads it using his Mangekyo Sharingan. It tells him about the Eternal Mangerkyo Sharingan!

Izuna goes back to his brother and tells him what he read (must give/take someone elses Mangekyo (must have one yourself) and implants it. The higher the connection to the recipatant, the higher the probability it'll work.)

Madara eagerly agrees and takes Izuna's eyes, gaining the EMS. Izuna dies subsequently afterwards but not before hearing his brother's promise to find someway to bring him back.

Madara (using Izuna's logic) goes to the Uchiha Stone Tablet and reads it (with EMS). He discovers the final step for the Sharingan is the Rinnegan. He also learns that the only way to get it is to possess Senju blood (all this occurs after the Senju and Madara make a pack).

Madara ask his clan to join him in wrestling the Hokage title away from Hashirama.

They shun him.

Feeling abandoned, Madara leaves the village. He figures he dosen't need them. (during his time away from the village, he meets Oonoki.)

Fast forward to VoTE.

Madara "loses" which is just a ploy for the world to believe he is dead.

He unlocks the Rinnegan (captured DNA from Hashiram during the fight) and Wood element after inducing the Senju blood within himself. He uses it and accidentally creates Zetsu.

Anyway, Madara revives Izuna using the Rinne Art of Rebirth (those that say that it only works on recently dead --- Madara had a humongous and powerful chakra. He could of extended the range of it.)

Izuna is appalled that Madara kept his word and ask how his brother achieved all of this. Madara tells him how he did it.

Madara also tells Izuna about his Moon's Eye Plan (he got the basis of this after obtaining the Rinnegan and sneaking back into Konoha to read the tablet which tells the story of the Rikodu Sennin and the Juubi)

Madara came up with the plan to become the host of the Juubi after witnessing how Mito Uzumaki became the host for the Nine Tails.(he heard about it from Zetsu who he had doing reconnaissance to gather information while he hid)

Madara is close to dying after doing all he did and survivng for such a long time (because of Hashirama's blood cells)

Madara comes up with the idea of infusing some Senju blood cells within Izuna to make him live longer. (How does he just get this Senju DNA to give to Izuna you ask?! The tree that Yamato is hooked up tom it had an orgin, that's what Madara created when he was experimenting with Senju DNA. Zetsu was born from this).

Just before Madara dies, he meets a very young Nagato. The reason for going to Nagato is because he saw what they (uzumaki) are capable of after Mito became the first jinchuuriki.

Madara dies but not before having Izuna remove his eyes to give to Nagato.

Time passes and Izuna attacks the leaf village (won't provide detail on how he discovered the secret of the seal weakening at birth and won't say how Izuna learned about how to navigate the barrier, but I will say how he got space jutsu. Izuna posed as an undercover Uchiha (kagami --- wont go into how). He copied the Space, time jutsu of the second Hokage while "being his student". Becomes tobi after second hokage dies.)

Tobi fails to Minato who comments on his space and time jutsu being even better than the second and taking control of Kyuubi which is a feat only Madara was capable of. The reason why Tobi is trying to get the Nine Tails is so he can get the big gun out of the way before taking the lower Bijuu.
 
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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

After (or before) failing to Minato, Tobi takes control of Mizukage and ultimately wrestles the 3 tails away from him. Kisame knew of Tobi being Madara (explanation given later on why Kisame would believe Tobi is Madara with mask off).

Time passes again and Uchiha massacre occurs.

Remember, Itachi sought out Tobi and told him that in exchange for leaving the village alone, he would allow him to aid him in killing the Uchiha clan.

Tobi really wants to do this because the Uchiha clan turned their backs on his older brother which caused him to leave.

Itachi believes Tobi is Madara. Him wanting to help kill the Uchiha clan only reaffirms this to Itachi.

Tobi spurrs Yahiko to form Akatsuki which goal is to capture bijuu since tobi couldn't obviously do it on his own.

Plans go wrong when Nagato uses Rinne Art of Rebirth to bring back Konoha Ninja. (Pisses of Tobi because it was supposed to be used to bring back Madara. Those of you who say that Nagato couldn't have even bring back Madara as he died many years ago forget that some of the bijuu are in Akatsuki's hand and Nagato could use some of its power to boost up his Rinne Tensei.)

Kabuto discovers that tobi isn't Madara because he brings him back. He also believes Tobi is Izuna hence Kabuto didn't ressurect Izuna.

Please, post this! Give me some credit too
 

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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

What's up, NB! I made this picture of the top 5 choices to the poll of this thread. Here is the visual of the top 5. All images are from Narutopedia, except Obito's, which is from the manga.

 
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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

I finally know who Tobi is.... but I do not recognize him. I have stumbled upon this image from Manga 551, page 17.

Spoiler alert, I think :)... Folks, do any of you recognize this guy?

You must be registered for see images
Even though this picture might not be real, he kinda looks like Kagami Uchiha.
 
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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

ok so where did he get a new pair of eyes?
Umm ... when Madara is ressurected by Edo Tensei he has his Rinnegan.

All dead Edo Tensei ppl are rejuvanated with all their body parts hence why itachi has his eyes even though Sasuke implanted them.
 

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TOBI IDENTITY; can't believe we missed it.

After some stone cold research. i have found the answer. Tobi is madara............wait; let me finish. Tobi is a parasitic white zetsu of the Uchiha legend all the while having some black zetsu in him as well... I recently realized this when tobi was holding off danzo's gaurds during the sasuke fight. When the nanobugs where caught to Tobi's arm and he chopped it off - white ooze fell off, similiar to when a white zetsu dies (before mokuton infusion)... whatever the case me be ; he IS a remnant of madara, and zetsu is definitely involved. now cut all this Izuna shit out. Izuna is dead, madara killed him. took his eyes... and achieved the EMS. in no way shape or form he is tobi. all you Izuna and Obito naysayers can hold this :kagutsuchi:

 
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Re: TOBI IDENTITY; can't believe we missed it.

There is a seperate thread for Official tobi ID Theories.



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Re: TOBI IDENTITY; can't believe we missed it.

Good theory ^^ , but I also respect the other theories and believe equally in all of theirs possibilities :rolleyes: since we still dont know :D
 

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Re: TOBI IDENTITY; can't believe we missed it.

Saw that a long time ago but even if tobi is a REMNANT of madar why does him sharingan have different abilities than madara's and even if zetsu did copy madara the abilities of the zetsu wont be = to madara's.

Hence tobi is not equal to madara!
 
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