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MangekyouJ
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Re: Tobi a Namikaze??
The only person that knows for sure is the writer/author and he's not here to say I'm wrong or right or anyone else for that matter that's leading authority of that manga....a theory is nothing more than a speculation - a guess. Has he hinted it in the manga...sur he has but not enough to prove anyone right or wrong....suspense building is what they call it in the drama world...
And you know what...it might be....but it's as close and better than anything that Kishi has shown us thusfar....explains a lot when you think about it.....
The only person that knows for sure is the writer/author and he's not here to say I'm wrong or right or anyone else for that matter that's leading authority of that manga....a theory is nothing more than a speculation - a guess. Has he hinted it in the manga...sur he has but not enough to prove anyone right or wrong....suspense building is what they call it in the drama world...
MangekyouJ
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Re: Tobi a Namikaze??
Same basic premises applies....or common sense to those that has some...:scorps:
Daniel Uchiha
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Re: Tobi a Namikaze??
Well since it's japanese and families in japan are called clans then there IS a Namikaze clan. Minato was just the last one.
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MangekyouJ
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Re: Tobi a Namikaze??
Thanks for the support...but people are failing to realize that whether it's fanbased or not, this is as close as an actual guess as anyone can get that could make sense...The only person that knows whether if I'm right or wrong is Kishi...Would I feel bad if he told me I was wrong, No....cuz all I did was guess with the abilities of what I've seen instead of the "Tobi is Madara" guess....you can't be an Edo if you're alive....I hope that point came across ok.:scorps:
Re: Tobi a Namikaze??
It's a fake site and any one who has common sense would know it.
Ya, obviously I didn't create the manga. But I read it. And anyone who reads it and has a sliver of common sense would know that nothing on that website is real.
Go find me a single manga page that says any of the above.
Are you actually trying to defend that WIKI page? Seriously?:sy:
It's a fake site and any one who has common sense would know it.
Ya, obviously I didn't create the manga. But I read it. And anyone who reads it and has a sliver of common sense would know that nothing on that website is real.
- There have never been a mentioning of the Namikaze Clan being called "The Golden Clan of Light"
- There have never been a mentioning of a country called Kosuigakure.
- There has never been a claim that the Namikaze were one of most powerful clans.
- There has never been someone called Narako Namikaze
- There has never been someone called Tsuyoshi Namikaze
- There has never been someone called Kaoru Namikaze
- There has never been someone called Sumei Namikaze
Go find me a single manga page that says any of the above.
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MangekyouJ
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Jesus Christ, Mary, Joseph, and the rest of them....I think I struck a nerve. So there hasn't been any mentioning of them directly in the manga....yet.
So Minato came from where?? I guess Tobirama learned his S-T jutsu from a sealing tech too huh??? You're looking too deep into what's there instead of the possibility. If you're looking for facts that ALREADY in the manga, of course you're not gonna find them....so if I told you, Kishi was gonna imply all of the Shinigami Shinto myths into Naruto, you'd see that as fiction too....You're just as linear as everyone else who reads EXACTLY what he reads instead of the possibilities of others...theory.
You still criticise a website based on what's there and not. So I'm not really caring the fact to try to prove you wrong....so when you hear or see any of the names pop up....kinda think back to this thread, and think to yourself, "Dam, he DID say there was a possibility..."
Out of the 587 chapters??? Really??:sy:
Jesus Christ, Mary, Joseph, and the rest of them....I think I struck a nerve. So there hasn't been any mentioning of them directly in the manga....yet.
So Minato came from where?? I guess Tobirama learned his S-T jutsu from a sealing tech too huh??? You're looking too deep into what's there instead of the possibility. If you're looking for facts that ALREADY in the manga, of course you're not gonna find them....so if I told you, Kishi was gonna imply all of the Shinigami Shinto myths into Naruto, you'd see that as fiction too....You're just as linear as everyone else who reads EXACTLY what he reads instead of the possibilities of others...theory.
You still criticise a website based on what's there and not. So I'm not really caring the fact to try to prove you wrong....so when you hear or see any of the names pop up....kinda think back to this thread, and think to yourself, "Dam, he DID say there was a possibility..."
Re: Tobi a Namikaze??
Basically you admitted that you can't prove any of the websites contents. If you yourself can't even prove these to be true, then why are you pushing them forth?
And I have no problems with theories given that they are formulated with actual facts and support. Not theories that are made from absolute fan-made information. A theory is something that attempts to explain an unknown using already known facts and information. In fact, you can't even call something a theory if it's made up of unreal facts at it's core. How to you attempt to explain something if you're using false information to begin with?
No, they won't come in the manga because wiki sites like these can be made and edited by anyone. That's the sole reason why the people of NB don't accept wiki sites as legitimate sources of information when discussing topics.
If you're going to justify the contents of that website by the fact that they haven't been mentioned in the manga yet, then what are you saying? That websites like those are a treasure trove of spoilers? That doesn't even make sense. And who would even have the access to future story material like this? No one.
Basically you admitted that you can't prove any of the websites contents. If you yourself can't even prove these to be true, then why are you pushing them forth?
And I have no problems with theories given that they are formulated with actual facts and support. Not theories that are made from absolute fan-made information. A theory is something that attempts to explain an unknown using already known facts and information. In fact, you can't even call something a theory if it's made up of unreal facts at it's core. How to you attempt to explain something if you're using false information to begin with?
No, they won't come in the manga because wiki sites like these can be made and edited by anyone. That's the sole reason why the people of NB don't accept wiki sites as legitimate sources of information when discussing topics.
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MangekyouJ
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Who's to say the information is false just because it hasn't reached your ears of what you believe?? That's just like all the many other pointless thread that people pull up about who Madara is....Facts are facts right, YOU CAN'T BE ALIVE AND HAVE AN EDO.....RIGHT??? That's a fact that's in the Manga....right? Then tell that to those idiots who believe so.
No one knew what the hell Izanagi was until Danzo spoke of it....which anyone who's familiar with Shinto and Japanese folklore would be....and there were HELLA sites that said the EXACT same thing.
So for you to sit continuosly flame me for a theory based on another website just because you don't know where they got their info from....hell I don't know where they got their info from....but I'm just going by what makes sense....how can someone warp continuously from one spot to another, become intangible whenever for extended periods of time....only a S-T user....one that has mastery of it. Does Madara has Mastery of Space-Time, no, otherwise the Hokages would've been dead by now....hell they would've been dead in the first 2 minutes......
So you can believe what you want from whatever source you want the manga contradicts itself in plenty of ways....but anyone with a sliver of common sense knew that.....right....:scorps:
So basically you're saying that the FACT that me saying Kishimoto is bringing Shinto and Japanes folklore to Naruto, based off the various names of jutsus, that could be found off of any WIKI sites like the one I posted, vs Kishimoto actually drawing them into existence in his manga are two different things???
Who's to say the information is false just because it hasn't reached your ears of what you believe?? That's just like all the many other pointless thread that people pull up about who Madara is....Facts are facts right, YOU CAN'T BE ALIVE AND HAVE AN EDO.....RIGHT??? That's a fact that's in the Manga....right? Then tell that to those idiots who believe so.
No one knew what the hell Izanagi was until Danzo spoke of it....which anyone who's familiar with Shinto and Japanese folklore would be....and there were HELLA sites that said the EXACT same thing.
So for you to sit continuosly flame me for a theory based on another website just because you don't know where they got their info from....hell I don't know where they got their info from....but I'm just going by what makes sense....how can someone warp continuously from one spot to another, become intangible whenever for extended periods of time....only a S-T user....one that has mastery of it. Does Madara has Mastery of Space-Time, no, otherwise the Hokages would've been dead by now....hell they would've been dead in the first 2 minutes......
So you can believe what you want from whatever source you want the manga contradicts itself in plenty of ways....but anyone with a sliver of common sense knew that.....right....:scorps:
Re: Tobi a Namikaze??
The point here is you're basing a theory off completely wack information. That is not a theory. A theory contains known facts and it builds upon them in an attempt to explain an unknown. That's what a theory is by definition.
Until Kishi reveals something in the manga it is not a fact. Ya, you can go speculate anything you want and justify all of it on the grounds that "just because it's not in the manga doesn't mean it's false". That's not even an argument. That's denial that you're wrong.
I bet you're not even listening to yourself. Anyone can blab on about anything they want and defend themselves by saying "just because it's not in the manga yet doesn't mean it's false". That's a completely void defense. It has no compelling argument behind it whatsoever.
So your claim that Tobi is a Namikaze is solely on the fact that he has Space-Time techniques. Then by your logic I assume Tobirama was also a Space-Time user, correct? Even Kakashi has a Space-Time technique granted to him by his Sharingan. I assume that by your logic Kakashi is part Namikaze.
Even the basic Summoning Technique is a rudimentary form of Space-Time techniques. How do you explain the fact that almost anyone can do it?
There is absolutely nothing that links Space-Time techniques to the Namikaze name.
Did I say that? No, I didn't. I said nothing of the sort. Now you're twisting my words to make them mean what you want them to mean.
Yes, it is false because nothing of the sort has even remotely been suggested in the manga. So yes, that's what it means. I don't even get what you're getting at. You're trying to justify that the facts on that wiki site are "not false"? That doesn't make a shred of sense.
The point here is you're basing a theory off completely wack information. That is not a theory. A theory contains known facts and it builds upon them in an attempt to explain an unknown. That's what a theory is by definition.
Could you be any more incoherent in your argument? I don't see what Izanagi's debut even has to do with this.
Until Kishi reveals something in the manga it is not a fact. Ya, you can go speculate anything you want and justify all of it on the grounds that "just because it's not in the manga doesn't mean it's false". That's not even an argument. That's denial that you're wrong.
I bet you're not even listening to yourself. Anyone can blab on about anything they want and defend themselves by saying "just because it's not in the manga yet doesn't mean it's false". That's a completely void defense. It has no compelling argument behind it whatsoever.
You fail to see my point. What's posted on that site isn't even info. Do you not know what wiki sites are? I can go right now and edit whatever I want on that page. I can make up whatever I want and post it right now. That's what wiki websites are...
So your claim that Tobi is a Namikaze is solely on the fact that he has Space-Time techniques. Then by your logic I assume Tobirama was also a Space-Time user, correct? Even Kakashi has a Space-Time technique granted to him by his Sharingan. I assume that by your logic Kakashi is part Namikaze.
Even the basic Summoning Technique is a rudimentary form of Space-Time techniques. How do you explain the fact that almost anyone can do it?
There is absolutely nothing that links Space-Time techniques to the Namikaze name.
What does the manga contradicting itself have anything to do with our argument? What does it have to do with the fact that wiki sites are a bogus and unreliable source of info?
Re: tobi is not from the uchiha
It's hard to say. Some of the uchiha are known for keeping their sharingan running for a very long time, providing they have the chakra to do so. Tobi obviously has a substantial amount to be able to control all the tailed beasts at once, and he does seem to have the traditional hairstyle of the uchiha.
I think it would be an excellent twist in the story for him to be a senju though.
It's hard to say. Some of the uchiha are known for keeping their sharingan running for a very long time, providing they have the chakra to do so. Tobi obviously has a substantial amount to be able to control all the tailed beasts at once, and he does seem to have the traditional hairstyle of the uchiha.
I think it would be an excellent twist in the story for him to be a senju though.
blake spartan
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who is tobi
hey now what im about to say is going to sound super stupid but in naruto you never know so i think tobi is obitto ya i know stupid right but explain this to me why does kakashi and tobi have the same ability kakashi sharingan is in his left eye while tobi's is in his right eye its just a theory but i also think tobi is madara's brother or the sage of the six paths son
hey now what im about to say is going to sound super stupid but in naruto you never know so i think tobi is obitto ya i know stupid right but explain this to me why does kakashi and tobi have the same ability kakashi sharingan is in his left eye while tobi's is in his right eye its just a theory but i also think tobi is madara's brother or the sage of the six paths son
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