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[Krosis]

Re: Tobi's Real Body/Oh God, another Tobi thread...

YES!​

 

[Edge]

Re: Tobi's Real Body/Oh God, another Tobi thread...

May be. But how zetsu help him to be immortal? Is zetsu immortal?

That's another big mystery; who is Zetsu?

We do know that Zetsu has stuck with Tobi for the entire time, Zetsu himself may be something created from Hashirama's cells. The only thing we can speculate is that Black Zetsu seems to have more of a history than WHite Zetsu (who can be cloned).

Is Black Zetsu the first Zetsu?

 

[-Jiraiya-]

Re: Tobi's Real Body/Oh God, another Tobi thread...

That's another big mystery; who is Zetsu?

We do know that Zetsu has stuck with Tobi for the entire time, Zetsu himself may be something created from Hashirama's cells. The only thing we can speculate is that Black Zetsu seems to have more of a history than WHite Zetsu (who can be cloned).

Is Black Zetsu the first Zetsu?

^ Its certain that white zetsu is made of Hashi's cells. Black zetsu may be a base zetsu which was reinforced with white zetsu to make it more strong. Though white zetsu does all spying, black zetsu is more like nerd, having more knowledge than white zetsu kinda like brain...

 

[Edge]

Re: Tobi's Real Body/Oh God, another Tobi thread...

^ Its certain that white zetsu is made of Hashi's cells. Black zetsu may be a base zetsu which was reinforced with white zetsu to make it more strong. Though white zetsu does all spying, black zetsu is more like nerd, having more knowledge than white zetsu kinda like brain...

That's true, maybe Black Zetsu was a normal human but chose to transform himself into Zetsu and serve as it's other half. Pure speculation, but maybe Black Zetsu (originally being human) is the source of White-Zetsu's knowledge and gives Zetsu its human form.

 

[Aze]

Re: Tobi's Real Body/Oh God, another Tobi thread...

Thanks , and I have noticed it before , that he has some zetsu properties.

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[Edge]

Re: Tobi's Real Body/Oh God, another Tobi thread...

Thanks , and I have noticed it before , that he has some zetsu properties.

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Thanks, glad you liked it!

 

[Kamishiro]

Re: ‡‡ Official Title slides/Banner Request Thread ‡‡

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Text: Lyon Vastia The Ice Mage
Color Scheme: Version with darkred and version with dark blue
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[kibaclaw]

Re: What if Tobi has/is the Juubi's soul?

I thought the tailed beasts were just masses of chakra. And hey, for all we know, the Sage might have used Creation of All Things to give them different personalities.

Well the juubi was just a mass of chakra and this thread assumed it had a soul... If the juubi had a soul then the bijuu are the 9 pieces of the juubi soul just like the puppets in the movie "9".

 

[Honord Sage]

Re: What if Tobi has/is the Juubi's soul?

One soul became 9 souls 9 personalities the Cybil of this Manga.

 

[Genduko]

Re: Who is the Masked man Tobi?

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fugaku uchia

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tobi

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tobi when he meet with itachi

completely different hair styles and color

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tobi's partial face seen

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fugaku uchia sharingan

there not the same person itachi is smart he would know if his father was tobi as would of sasuke

 

[Edge]

Re: Who is the Masked man Tobi?

Fugaku is dead. There is tons of evidence supporting Izuna but none for Fugaku at all.

Izuna died you say? There's this thing called the Rinne Tensei that brings people back to life, Nagato used it on the villagers. Now since Madara UNLOCKED RINNEGAN BEFORE HE DIED, who would he revive first? Fugaku? Try his younger brother who was arguably on par with his brother before he died.

IZUNA DIED BUT IS NOT DEAD, just like Kakashi died and Shizune died but they're still kicking. Also, Fugaku being Tobi makes no sense since the manga says Itachi "sought Tobi out" to help kill his clan. Do you really think ITACHI wouldn't know his own dad behind a mask? If anything else is to be revealed ablut that night, then it's likely that Tobi killed Sasuke's parents and not Itachi.

Come at me.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Re: Who is the Masked man Tobi?

These threads are banned

 

[NarutoKage2]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Ok, in my opinion if you look at the physical face of Tobi and the features that have been revealed thus far and if you assume he is in fact an Uchiha than based off appearances the most likely candidates are:
1. Fugaku Uchiha
2. Shisui Uchiha
3. The Elder son
I was just re reading the manga chapter where Sasuke first meets Tobi. Idk if its old age or just a feature of his, but he definitely seems to have line(s) under his eyes, as this trait is'nt just a one time drawing thing. Kishi has shown this consistently every time we catch a glimpse of a part of Tobi's face. The same thing was observed in 2 or 3 different pics in the chapter i read, and again the same feature of Tobi is shown in the fight against Konan when a part of his mask gets ripped off. This is one of the many factors, but as its pretty constant its something to consider i guess. I'm not entirely sure you can call it wrinkles due to old age, his skin does'nt sag at all its more like the lines on Itachi's face, i.e a constant feature/trait.

Oh, not hating or anything, but in all the past pics i could find neither Izuna nor Kagami or Obito had anything other than very smooth skin on that part of their face, so from a pictorial evidence point of view this rules them out as possibilities.

 

[kellzfresh]

Re: Who is the Masked man Tobi?

Everyone has discredit Fugaku Uciha, the Leader of the Uciha, and Konoha Police force who works with the Anbu. Who was the leader of Root, Danzo, right?
Danzo and Tobi has similar views yes?

Also for the Uciha massacre Tobi was seen with Danzo, and Danzo asked do you think Itachi will finish off his clan, he said no, and that is why Tobi went.

Tobi was also said to have trained Itachi, and showed him the tablet so he can awaken Ms etc.

Also Fugaku was also one to push his son, and make him a better ninja.
He was the one who put him as a spy for Konoha.

He had Shisui spy on Itachi, Shisui is Itachi's best friend.

However, Shisui couldn't take it anymore, and he said protect Konoha, because he knew something was going on, and he knew he didn't have the capabilites to stop it. He didn't want to betray Konoha or his Friend, so that is why he gave itachi his last eye.

Shisui got his eye stolen by who? Yeah Danzo.

That might be leap but it makes sense right?

Because it was said Fugaku was going have an uprising.

Also it said that once Fugaku knew something was off with Itachi he put all his attention into teaching Sasuke, Which blew him away when Sasuke learned the Fireball tech in a week.

It was said that he easily got Sasuke to do what he wanted.

Anyways...

All we Saw was Itachi going to the Uciha clan and everyone was already killed, so he ran to Sasuke, saw two lumps face down. Those are suppose to be the parents, Everyone said oh we saw his parents dead... Really did we? they were both face down together in a pile, really that happened? When we have ocular powered genjutsu out there? WE know Itachi put Sasuke under gen to give Sasuke a false reality of what happened, and made it appear Itachi did everything to breed his hatred in him.

He also ran into Tobi there and they talked. Also we are shown that Tobi also has Izanagi which is feared. So he could of used Izanagi on either of itachi or Sasuke. Anyways, everyone believes its shusui because of the Izanagi, but its not a special thing only shusui has.

I read up on Izanagi, it said Izanagi is this person or spirit, that eventually unlocks amaratsu in the right eye, and Tsy in the left unlocking Susanoo.

I believe any Uciha can use Izanagi they just have to master the Sharigan, which Maybe Fugaku did. Also during Danzo/sasuke fight, sasuke used a form of Izanagi.

Going back, Madara was the Clan leader, now Fugaku, I think Fugaku might be Izuna/Madara son, and they passed down the Curse of hatred down to Fugaku.

Also why wouldnt be likely that Fugaku killed the clan, they all turned their backs on Madara, so wouldnt a son of Madara breed his own Hatred towards his clan? He probably only cared about his family, oh wait who lived, itachi and sasuke? Oh yeah... it was.

It seems really clear to me that Fugaku is the leader, everyone feared all Uciha, they were all great fighters.

We Don't know much about Fugaku, his powers, he never boasted or showed he was anything great, he hid himself. He kept himself as an Enigma.

Who else keeps themself that way, wears a mask, hides his Identity, tell Naruto " I am really no one, I am not anyone" - Not direct quote, but the jist of it.

Fugaku wants to keep himself hidden, because he really doesnt want to be known or great, because if he keeps his plan in action, no one would know who he is, because he will have control over all of them, creating his eternal peace.

I'm just saying if people know about you, know who you are, etc they are going to come after you and stop you, but if you are mysterious, hidden, how can they stop you?

Just like Kabuto said, soon everyone will know all about me with my powerful edo tensei jutso, hell I will probably become more famous than you Tobi.

That's because Tobi keeps everything to himself, and plus if he achieves his goal how would anyone hear about him? if he is completely controlling everyone in the ninja world.

This is just my idea, there is lots of evidence actually.

Because he was young like 26 or so when he fought minato. So 16 years later he would be like 40 ish, and the strain from using his eyes so much he those lines, who also has those lines under his eyes, oh yeah Itachi!!! Father like son?

Why is he so interested in Sasuke, wanting him to be better. Was about to show his face to Sasuke right?

I think his father was going to be like it's okay son, I am here, see my face, but than Itachi put that into Sasuke Sharigan.

Who said Itachi implanted gave it to Sasuke for Madara? That is everyone believes... right?


However, how man Sharigans are left? Or the fact Itachi knows a lot about Tobi, and knows he will come after Sasuke, so he put it in the Sharigan knowing that this might happen and that Tobis eyes regardless of who he is would be activated.

Come on guys, you think he can put a specific justsu in Sasukes eye that is meant only for Madara?? Really how the **** is that possible, it was only activated upon Tobis own sharigan or w/e... IT's still a bit skeptical..

However, we know how intelligent Itachi is, so he may of found out Tobi is really Fugaku, and that Itachi knew he was really a pawn this whole time and was meant to give EMS to Sasuke and help him.

That is why he went so far as to help Naruto, because he wants Naruto to shut Sasuke down, because he knows how a lot of stuff is suppose to be planned out.

You might say my idea is Far fetched, but we understand that Tobi is a master mind, and made a lot of predictions, and controlled a lot of people and outcomes, also Itachi is very intelligent too. Ofc its passed down

Obito ****ing tied, you saw in the Manga his entire body was crushed in.

If you see he had his Rival Kakashi, and that he was laid back guy. Obito just wanted to be better than Kakashi, than he gives his eye to Kakashi. Than the cave finally caved in completely.

Also Shusui really died.

Zetsu, is zetsu.

Izuna is dead, Tobiramu is Dead and sealed with his brother.


Okay Thanks for reading this, I like to hear more Ideas upon this.

If Fugaku is tobi, wont sasuke and itachi know his voice or know his presence Good efforts, but wrong person :sy:

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Ok, in my opinion if you look at the physical face of Tobi and the features that have been revealed thus far and if you assume he is in fact an Uchiha than based off appearances the most likely candidates are:
1. Fugaku Uchiha
2. Shisui Uchiha
3. The Elder son
I was just re reading the manga chapter where Sasuke first meets Tobi. Idk if its old age or just a feature of his, but he definitely seems to have line(s) under his eyes, as this trait is'nt just a one time drawing thing. Kishi has shown this consistently every time we catch a glimpse of a part of Tobi's face. The same thing was observed in 2 or 3 different pics in the chapter i read, and again the same feature of Tobi is shown in the fight against Konan when a part of his mask gets ripped off. This is one of the many factors, but as its pretty constant its something to consider i guess. I'm not entirely sure you can call it wrinkles due to old age, his skin does'nt sag at all its more like the lines on Itachi's face, i.e a constant feature/trait.

Oh, not hating or anything, but in all the past pics i could find neither Izuna nor Kagami or Obito had anything other than very smooth skin on that part of their face, so from a pictorial evidence point of view this rules them out as possibilities.

1. You want to tell me that Sasuke and Itachi can't recognize their own father ? Good story bro, also their weight,height do not match and also he has a different hair Colour.
2. Shisui was some good Uchiha and Kabuto tried best of his effort to get his DNA so he could revive him, Kabuto knows who Tobi is so again NO
3. Elder Son lived centuries ago so no

 

[NarutoKage2]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

1. You want to tell me that Sasuke and Itachi can't recognize their own father ? Good story bro, also their weight,height do not match and also he has a different hair Colour.
2. Shisui was some good Uchiha and Kabuto tried best of his effort to get his DNA so he could revive him, Kabuto knows who Tobi is so again NO
3. Elder Son lived centuries ago so no

1.I said its based on appearances, i did'nt say whether or not logically it makes any sense. Learn to read, you illiterate noob. And Tobi already said he managed to keep a few secrets from Itachi.
2. Shisui wanted peace, so does Tobi cuz he said to Minato my goal is to start a war, to bring peace. And Kabuto said he could'nt find Shisui's DNA, think about that. Kabuto managed to find Madara's dna who lived ages ago but not Shisui's dna who was supposed to have died much more recently.
3. And so? Such weaklings as Hidan have been shown to be immortal.
4. Try to read carefully what the other person is saying before arguing ignorantly and talking out of your ass.

 

[Vroqrak]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

another spam thread xd

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

calm down please, you know it's nonsense

 

[NarutoKage2]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

another spam thread xd

Its the only place you can discuss Tobi's ID.

calm down please, you know it's nonsense

Sure, can't argue logically then come up with excuses, sure thing bro.

 

[Sasuke2]

Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

Sorry for that.
But I think it's wrinkles.