[Theory] Tobi: Thread for all Tobi theories and related discussions .

Who do you think Tobi is:

  • Jubbi

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Sage of Six Paths

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Elder son of Sage of Sixth Path

    Votes: 65 9.3%
  • Izuna uchiha

    Votes: 105 15.0%
  • Kagami uchiha

    Votes: 71 10.1%
  • Obito Uchiha

    Votes: 77 11.0%
  • Fugaku Uchiha

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Zetsu

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Madara's split personality (created before original body died.)

    Votes: 66 9.4%
  • A copycat whose rolemodel is Madara.

    Votes: 13 1.9%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • An unknown Uchiha

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Real Madara in Zetsu body

    Votes: 28 4.0%
  • Some one from Madara's time ( can't decide though)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Danzou

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • Setsuna Uchiha

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Shisui

    Votes: 14 2.0%
  • An Uzumaki

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • Madara's Son

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • A woman

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Obito's father

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Someone Other than these

    Votes: 24 3.4%
  • First Edo tensie

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • An alien ( Superman/ HeMan/whatnot)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • I am the best. I have no theory. ( Not anymore at least.)

    Votes: 22 3.1%

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Re: The last tobi = obito thread :')

Yep this is another Tobi is Obito thread but it may just be the best one you have ever read and might even make you reconsider your previous thoughts..

Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his abilty to become intangible and pass through solid objects and bearly makes it out alive from the underground cave with the right side of his body half crushed. Right after this he encountered Zetsu who meets this young boy with special eye powers and saves him. I belive Zetsu is some sort of creation by madara “The way i see it is that , when madara was dying he activated the rinnengan, and let zetsu take the rinnengan from him, along with the harashima cells, and also some of madara's own DNA.He then let zetsu implant all of these things into a piece of zetsu body like a big enough chunk to make a body , hence developing a second madara. That had all his memories(or possibly he could of extracted his entire brain?) and shit.”


And later infused this body with obito who he found because he needed the body of an uchiha and this was he’s perfect chance because the uchiha’s were all still alive and he didn’t want to engage into combat.
Now what if zetsu he then implanted the eyes into an uzumaki child (nagato). In order to study it abilities or re-awaken it.
Now before you question my theory or flame me read the whole thread !!!!!!


First of all let's start with the basics, tobi is is basically obito with a missing O this is probably one of the first links people spotted but is very true. Even if you say tobi backwards out loud it is actually bi to and if you spell tobi together multiple times without spaces you get this tobitobitobitobi small irrelevant but ture links but as I said this is just the basics. Now this same small link was the same with naruto and nagato and look at the big link with them, both uzumaki, Both jiraya's students..
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the list of links goes on

In the naruto series Kishi puts a lot of links between characters, names and much more which are all connected... don't want to go into all the links with names this thread will be to long..

Second link hair well as we all know obito's hair and tobi's current hair are very similar

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but in the past tobi has been seen with longer hair, but obito could of left his hair to grow for whatever reason and then cut it back to how it was originally, tobi is the character who changes his appearance the most in naruto with frequent mask changes

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you saying tobi is not obito because he once had long hair is just like saying the mask man who talked to kisamae is not tobi because he has a different mask

Tobi's sharingan powers is similar to kakashi's it was stated that each sharingan user has unique power, kakashi can warp objects that he focuses his eyes on into different dimensions

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Tobi can warp anything he touches into different dimensions
aswell as himself to different dimensions and other locations.

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Kakashi sharingan is obito's eye and not he’s eye so it’s obvious that he would not be able to use it to its full ability. It is also obvious that obito would have this sort space/time powers if he survived, which tobi clearly does

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People also say well it’s not obito because tobi has 2 sharingah which was revealed with his fight against konan well..

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Tobi has also been shown he has great skill in transplanting eyes as he gave sasuke itachi's eyes and also when he implants the reningan in he’s left eye. So yh that kills that argument doesn't it..

Another argument is tobi is too strong to be obito he couldn't of got that strong in that time space to fight the 4th and so on, well if obito did survive we don't know what happened to him in those 3-5 (not sure) years. Well I look at naruto here

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And now look at him here

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Hope you get my point, look how strong naruto has become in a 3-4 year period, I mean itachi killed his whole clan when he was 13 I think so how can you say tobi is too strong to be obito.
Also what people do not see is that obito is not strong at all I mean all he does is obsorb people and teleport I mean if obito did survive and unlock his powers would he need to improve much on his ninjutsu and taijutsu, I think not ! those powers a fearful enough

Yes he went up against the 4th... And lost !

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Anyone can go up against anyone the battle between the 4th and tobi was mainly a battle of brains not bronze, tobi isn't really that strong it’s just his ocular powers

People say Obito has no reason to be evil look well.. look at sasuke here


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and look at sasuke here

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Obviously we have been following the story of sasuke as well as naruto so we know all the events that have happened in the last 3-4 years but like I said we don't know what happen to obito if he did survive.. good guys can turn bad as seen with many characters.. * cough cough* nagato

Now obito's body was crushed.. Tobi's body is filled with a white substance most likely zetsu,

which makes perfect sense for this to be obito look at tobi here

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he's right side is white,

we know that zetsu and tobi are very close

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Like my theory says he could have confronted obito near his death we don’t know!

Tobi is old we saw his face, yh we've seen the right said of his face never the left, his right side was crushed of course it would look squashed. There has been many times were we have seen tobi’s right side of his face never his left ??


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This one is the real key if kishi is willing to reveal this much of his face he might aswell reveal all of it ? welll if it is obito the the left side should be fine not squashed which is the only reason I can think of for his left face not to be shown


This is a complete random clue I saw from re watching some past naruto ep's (ay I was bored) anyway right before akatsuki was introduced and itachi and kismae were sitting down in a restaurant this was said.............

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Asuma said this to kakashi because he said he is collecting something for an offering or something like that. This was the first time obito was ever mentioned and I assure you this was righttt before itachi, kisame and akatsuki was introduced would be very ironic as tobi claims to be the influence behind akatsuki and obito is mentioned right before akatsuki’s introduction anyway just a clue I found

If you actually read all that wow, I added a lot of pictures in this thread so I could prove everything I said was true. I will probably reply to post on this thread by just copying and pasting because people don’t seem to read the post properly when the answer is right there.

There's no way I can go into why tobi isn't the elder son, izuna uchiha or kami uchiha. Have you seen how long this thread is but I will do brief summaries why I believe they are not tobi.

Sage of six path son:
’’Even the elder son's dad wasnt immortal so why would he? kakuzu said theres no true immortality meaning hidan ages. everything deteriorates. plus tobi posed as madara. why would the mighty son of the sage pose as a kid, who would madara be to him? and why is he madara's bitch, following madara's plan and planning to resurrect madara? why would he become so weak over the years? his fight with his bro couldnt have
done that much.

Quote from this thread

Which I fully agree with

Izuni madara brother:

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He is blind and dead why do you people say this, if he was blind how did he get new eyes?? we saw him in his coffin ?? Even if he "didn't die" he would die from old age what is wrong with you people ?? Yet we didn’t see obito die and you say he is dead ??

Kami uchiha: I wouldn't mind if it was, I actually like the idea and is who I believe tobi is if it is not obito. Kami is around the right age to be tobi and also he just seemed to disappear with no explanation. But if it was him who would it shock, most people probably don't even know him the third is dead, danzo is dead and the second 2nd is dead.. If it was obito that involves the 4th and Kakashi who are connected to almost all the characters in the naruto universe in some way or form.

For those how thought the obito is tobi theory died I'm showing you it’s still alive and kicking !!

Please argue against any of the points I've made or maybe some that I haven't made, this is a discussion and I would like to hear your thoughts

I just don’t like the fact that people are saying “It can’t be Obito !!” when as I have shown in this thread it very well could be. :scorps:
My theory of why it is not impossible for tobi to be obito :scorps:
 

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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

any theories on why tobi has only revealed himself to kisame?
and kisame replied "so it really is you" which makes you think he had an idea who he was anyway. does this have any significance?
 
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Re: [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread

What if Tobi is a clone of Madara as Yamato is to Hashirama? Orochimaru, 'creating' Yamato in his lab by expanding on the work of the kinjitsu of the Second, Tobirama. Tobirama, in turn, created 'Tobi' a nameless clone, no one in his lab earlier. Tobirama created Edo Tensei Impure World Resurrection- an abomination of a jutsu. Think, if Tobirama was a far-right leaning extremist like Danzo, in times of war he would go to any means necessary to protect Konoha. He created ANBU. Maybe his pet-project was building the Super Shinobi. Including making a god, a virtual So6P, by combining the 1st's DnA with Madara's. The experiments were not entirely successful, with the only remaining living clone of Madara being Tobi. He is an imperfect copy as is Yamato, both shells of there former 'selfs'. Tobi the clone has not acheived the MS or EMS, and has no brother. Tobi went rogue and went off to seek out the still secretly living Madara. The two hatch a plan to implant the Rinnegan eyes in an Uzumaki and resurrect Madara when all the beasts had been gathered. Tobi hates Konoha because he resents being used as a puppet, a tool for their never-ending wars. Felt rejected by the lack of support from the Uchiha during his attack 16 years ago. Thus, he is 'no-one' and Madara and Tobi at the same time. A clone of the Uchiha Madara.

Maybe Tobirama opened pandora's box and the Ninja World is still paying for it.
 

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Re: The last tobi = obito thread :')

No offence, but Obito wasnt alive at the same time Madara was when they both would have made a plan, or when Nagato was a kid when he recieved the Rinnegan that Tobi says he "gave to Nagato."
"Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his abilty to become intangible and pass through solid objects and bearly makes it out alive from the underground cave with the right side of his body half crushed. Right after this he encountered Zetsu who meets this young boy with special eye powers and saves him. I belive Zetsu is some sort of creation by madara “The way i see it is that , when madara was dying he activated the rinnengan, and let zetsu take the rinnengan from him, along with the harashima cells, and also some of madara's own DNA.He then let zetsu implant all of these things into a piece of zetsu body like a big enough chunk to make a body , hence developing a second madara. That had all his memories(or possibly he could of extracted his entire brain?) and shit.”

Read my theory before you comment on my post
 

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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

any theories on why tobi has only revealed himself to kisame?
and kisame replied "so it really is you" which makes you think he had an idea who he was anyway. does this have any significance?
Kisame didn't know that tobi was the same masked man who revealed himself to kisame the first time he actually thought tobi was a new member to akatsuki many shinobi wear mask like haku and anbu members
 

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Re: The last tobi = obito thread :')

My theory of why it is not impossible for tobi to be obito :scorps:
i like your theory i myself agree i mean in the manga izuna kawarami how ever u spell it and shishui were all confirmed dead but not obito ppl say its not him but he died under the boulders yet we do not know if he really died bc it was never confirmed dead
 

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Shisui and Obito are brothers???

Look, Shisui has a nickname, shisui of the body-flicker, the body flicker technique is a form of teleportation.
Obitos sharingan which is now kakashis, his ms can do space/time technique to teleport stuff to other dimension.

They look like each other.
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Their clothes are similar, their hair are similar, their face and there isn´t much age-difference.
Itachi looked up to shisui as an older brother, when itachi was around 5 babysitting sasuke, kakashi was around 12, so he would definitely be the same age or perhaps a year younger.

So everything matches, i think they´re brothers, why not? It would add new dynamics to the series.

Not in the theory but the same subject
Also i think tobi is perhaps their father?! Not in this theory anyway but everything about tobi also matches obito and shisui and he has a better time/space similar to obitos ms while having controlled 4th mizukage easily, something only shisui can do without you being aware and Ao did say that the technique of shisuis eye in danzou that controlled mifune was similar to what controlled 4th mizukage.
 
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Re: Shisui and Obito are brothers???

I had also thought of that...but couldn't find enough material to prove my point so I didn't make a thread about it.
That would explain how Shisui gained the Mangekyo.
That would make possible the usage of KA by Kakashi(that'd be awesome!)
The last part also I thought but removed it as some pretty bad idea...Kishimoto would surprise us with who Tobi is, take my word.
 

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Re: Shisui and Obito are brothers???

I like the brother theory, its certainly possibly since the Uchiha don't work on a main/support branch system like the Hyuga. and youre right that Obito and Shisui's sharingan have time-space qualities as weve seen kakashi exemplify with his ms
 
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