[Theory] Tobi: Thread for all Tobi theories and related discussions .

[narutownsyouall]

Re: Tobi Is The Older Brother

He said he gave the renningan to Nagato which could mean he gave his personal pair to him(this also contradicts nagato having it with the edo in eff because if he did put them in nagato it wouldnt have shown up if it was artificial)(so it may not be true). And used the Sharingan for the time Nagato had them which explains why he didnt have them when he attacked the village and if he was madara why wouldn't he use his renningan and wipe out the village (pain did it with no 9 tailed). He said he wanted to win the future (any real senju that had the kekki genki is dead)

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Re: Tobi Is The Older Brother

tobis likely to be kagami , hair , age , jutsu , he knew danzos abilities , he dissappeared , wasnt present when the 9 tails was let loose, but if it was the son hed be about 300 years old

 

[Black Adam]

Re: Tobi Is The Older Brother

You know, there was a thread about this that explained it about a million times better than you did.

I'll just quote it here, for the people who are interested.

sound theory except for all of the self contradicting points....

 

[Mante]

Re: another theory about tobi

need more proof​

 

[Kerrah]

Re: another theory about tobi

Madara fought Hashirama not Hiruzen

And what would be the point of Izuna giving Madara his eyes if Madara knew he was going to fail? Shouldn't Madara had given his eyes so Izuna could have awakened the EMS?

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Re: another theory about tobi

More proof needed, been suggested a million times before, Izuna died.

 

[Black Adam]

Re: Tobi Is The Older Brother

You know, there was a thread about this that explained it about a million times better than you did.

I'll just quote it here, for the people who are interested.

Which ones?

Comment: It is very difficult to site the manga because he is constantly deceiving/manipulating others. Everything he says we have to take with a grain of salt.

this alone as you stated contradicts anything Tobi says that would lead to the belief that he is the 1st son of the SO6P

 

[narutownsyouall]

Re: Tobi Is The Older Brother

but he has never even tried to say that he could personally know the sage and he could have just got all that stuff from having a renningan which means he could just be some guy with the renningan so its stil just an outlandish theory haha!

 

[Black Adam]

Re: Tobi Is The Older Brother

Not really outlandish it's the best theory I've heard......

 

[narutownsyouall]

Re: Tobi Is The Older Brother

not really outlandish it's the best theory i've heard......

thanks!!

 

[oO madara95 Oo]

A possible identity to Tobi.

Well i was just reading a thread that said tobi could be Madara's brother and this actually makes more sense after the last couple of chapters. Here are some reasons why i think this

- Madara knows tobi to some extent

- Tobi was aware of the sacred tablet under the uchiha

- Tobi would have a motive to exact revenge on the Uchiha for betraying his bother

- Why if Kabuto found DNA for the best shonobi in the world could he not find Izuna's? Why did he not ressurrect him aswell. I don't think DNA of him would be that hard to find.

- Tobi had identical hair to him when he first met Kisame and Kisame reconized him as Uchiha madara which is a pretty close guess.

- Izuna was blind, which is a problem but as we know he has a Jar of sharigans and did you notice that 13 years before the massacre when he first fought minato we didn't see his sharingan eyes? I think this is due to the fact he was blind at the time and did not regain his eye sight until around the the Uchiha Massacre where he then transplanted them some from the other dead Uchiha's

- Tobi is intimidated by Madara like a younger brother to a older brother

- Tobi knows a extreme amount about the Sharingan which someone like Izuna or Madara would also know but im not sure if he is aware of how to create a rinnengan i think he just stole that of Madara's corpes at some point

Well those are my points debate and try and find flaws cause i want to hear other theories

 

[Black Adam]

Re: Tobi Is The Older Brother

We have to take what Tobi says with a grain of salt. This does not mean completely dismiss whatever comes out of his mouth.

What the creator of that hypothesis meant was that you have to read between the lines, and that's what he obviously did with every other quotation from Tobi and the manga. He didn't take Tobi's word for whatever Tobi stated in the manga, he made his own hypothesis. So, no, I don't think it is self-contradictory at all.

Soo....essentially it's "don't listen to what I say just how I say it" right?......

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Re: A possible identity to Tobi.

Yes, we did see his Sharingan when he took control of the fox and if he was blind how did he fight Minato?

 

[oO madara95 Oo]

Re: A possible identity to Tobi.

Yes, we did see his Sharingan when he took control of the fox and if he was blind how did he fight Minato?

Really? D: And dude its a anime with ninja's who can summon gaint frogs and raise the dead to start a war against a army of plant men and your asking why a blind guy cant fight? -.-

 

[Black Adam]

Re: Tobi Is The Older Brother

Pretty much :3

You mention reading between the lines a few times just remember what everyone reads into is subjective.....

 

[|KirA|]

Re: A possible identity to Tobi.

summoning Izuna if he was dead would be stupid. cos he would be blind and Kabuto needed to give him sharingan and so he would have only 3t-sharingan and nothing more. so no.

and why in hell is this guy still alive if he was Izuna? why doesnt he is all gray and almost dead? he must be like 100 years old.

and what with the zetsus? why does he use zetsuparts or the whole body of zetsu?

and finally: IF THIS IS IZUNA AND HE SAW HOW MADARA DIED OF OLD AGE, WHY DIDNT HE TAKE MADARAS RINNEGAN FOR HIMSELF AND TRAINED IT TO AWAKEN MADARA AGAIN? No Madara wanted Nagato to awaken him, why should he if his bro was alive?

 

[JojocIaw]

Re: A possible identity to Tobi.

We won't know till Kishi decides to show us. Then you also have to explain the whole zetsu thing like his arm and such.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Re: A possible identity to Tobi.

Really? D: And dude its a anime with ninja's who can summon gaint frogs and raise the dead to start a war against a army of plant men and your asking why a blind guy cant fight? -.-

Yes I am. If you cannot see you cannot fight unless you have chakra sensing which im guessing he doesnt have. Also I just proved you wrong since we saw him activate his Sharingan when he took control o the fox therefore your theory fails. :|

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: A possible identity to Tobi.

summoning Izuna if he was dead would be stupid. cos he would be blind and Kabuto needed to give him sharingan and so he would have only 3t-sharingan and nothing more. so no.

and why in hell is this guy still alive if he was Izuna? why doesnt he is all gray and almost dead? he must be like 100 years old.

and what with the zetsus? why does he use zetsuparts or the whole body of zetsu?

and finally: IF THIS IS IZUNA AND HE SAW HOW MADARA DIED OF OLD AGE, WHY DIDNT HE TAKE MADARAS RINNEGAN FOR HIMSELF AND TRAINED IT TO AWAKEN MADARA AGAIN? No Madara wanted Nagato to awaken him, why should he if his bro was alive?

dumbest argument ever

itachi was almost blind and an illness was ruining his body. why was he summoned

 

[uzuchia kunal]

Re: A possible identity to Tobi.

What nonsense,i cnt imagine izuna fighting ftg minato being blind.,dat iz a joke,
in my view he is older son of so6p because ths also make sense he knew abt sharingan technics and he also knew to control 9 tail demon fox.that is my view lol,evry1 has their own view,and abt name tobi it may be that the so6p older son was tobi..who knows..