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Who do you think Tobi is:

  • Jubbi

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Sage of Six Paths

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Elder son of Sage of Sixth Path

    Votes: 65 9.3%
  • Izuna uchiha

    Votes: 105 15.0%
  • Kagami uchiha

    Votes: 71 10.1%
  • Obito Uchiha

    Votes: 77 11.0%
  • Fugaku Uchiha

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Zetsu

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Madara's split personality (created before original body died.)

    Votes: 66 9.4%
  • A copycat whose rolemodel is Madara.

    Votes: 13 1.9%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • An unknown Uchiha

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Real Madara in Zetsu body

    Votes: 28 4.0%
  • Some one from Madara's time ( can't decide though)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Danzou

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • Setsuna Uchiha

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Shisui

    Votes: 14 2.0%
  • An Uzumaki

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • Madara's Son

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • A woman

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Obito's father

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Someone Other than these

    Votes: 24 3.4%
  • First Edo tensie

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • An alien ( Superman/ HeMan/whatnot)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • I am the best. I have no theory. ( Not anymore at least.)

    Votes: 22 3.1%

  • Total voters
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Re: The Secret about Madara and Tobi.. Thanks to a Uzamaki?

my thread earlier hinted in this direction, there is evidence hinting towards that outcome but time will tell
 

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Re: The Secret about Madara and Tobi.. Thanks to a Uzamaki?

I thought about this, but anyway,good theory, there is a possibility of it to be true.:)
 

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Re: The Secret about Madara and Tobi.. Thanks to a Uzamaki?

But Tobi DOESN'T have the trademark Red Hair of the Uzumaki clan....further he hates the Senjus so much that's its hard to believe that he is anything other than an Uchiha....plus he used the COMPLETE IZANAGI unlike Donzo's.

Also the way Edo-Madara used his Rinnrgan...the Meteor Jutsu is beyond Nagato...its hard to Imagine that he couldn't Handle the Power of his own Eyes...also the eyes with no side effects and achieved by the Man who had the Strongest Chakra among all the Uchihas.
 

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Re: The Secret about Madara and Tobi.. Thanks to a Uzamaki?

But Tobi DOESN'T have the trademark Red Hair of the Uzumaki clan....further he hates the Senjus so much that's its hard to believe that he is anything other than an Uchiha....plus he used the COMPLETE IZANAGI unlike Donzo's.

Also the way Edo-Madara used his Rinnrgan...the Meteor Jutsu is beyond Nagato...its hard to Imagine that he couldn't Handle the Power of his own Eyes...also the eyes with no side effects and achieved by the Man who had the Strongest Chakra among all the Uchihas.
i figured someone would say this.. ... The leader with Non-Red hair..
 
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Re: The Secret about Madara and Tobi.. Thanks to a Uzamaki?

Thanks to siyo i decided to put the pieces together on this little theory he brought up that i agree with and added more to it! It is the most original Thread You will ever read, and i promise you have never seen a theory like this..


Tobi/No One/Madara/what ever you wanna call the man could be an uzamaki or the leader of the Uzamakis! It would be out of no where that no one (haha get it) would get.
First:
First we have Tobi who knows everything and is mixed with senju and Uchiha Dna. Currently a power house but has been recently shown that he can use the same chains Kushina used to subdue the fox

Notice he says "Don't underestimate the eye power of an uchiha" , not "Don't underestimate my powers"...

but right here we can see tobi using the same chains before the fox is released.. So as a result its safe to say he didnt copy the tech, but rather possesed the same tech to begin with. Tobi Knew everything about when the seal will be weak and even had the ritual to free the fox waiting.. So obv he knew/know sealing jutsus!

But thats just the begining.. He said "do you have any idea how long ive waited for this moment" .. The only other Host was mito who we know had children.. So its safe to say he is some one from the past that timed and knew everything..

He then went to compliment the Uzamaki clan..

Tobi's ability's that point to this:
Long Life
Sealing techs
Knowledge


Second:
We have seen the power of sealing techs done by other shinobis outside the Uzamakis. But.. One that stands out the most is Danzou and Oru.. Oru experimented with danzou giving him sharingans and senju dna. And we know danzou was a pro when it came to sealing techs (underrated shinobi) and so was oru .. The reason i bring these two up is to show they transplated sharingans and dna, so its safe to say Tobi could have gotten The sharingan and Senju Dna transplanted by someone aswell... Madara Uchiha! So Oru and kabuto tried to do the same with Danzou..

.. Im assuming Madara and a Uzamaki (or other shinobi) Joined forces for the future! Madara fought Hashirama and obv lost, but in returned gained his DNA is what Tobi Explained to us.. It later was proven true by the real madara . It was 2 shinobi who only knew of this survival (them 2) and im guessing Madara experimented with tobi to better make him powerful and plan for the Future take over (collecting all 9 bijuu). Giving him the DNA he retrieved from Hashirama and giving him A sharingan with the power to use his S/T.

But the twist would be.. Tobi was already an uzamaki that would live this long and have incredibly huge chakra to hold his own. Think about it..

He has shown to have great sealing jutsu, knowledge on everything that happen between Madara and Hashirama (Madara told him before he died).

Madara thought he could achieve the Rinnegan and become all powerful. BUT.. his body couldn't handle it! And as a result he died! (stay with me now!)

He and his friend Tobi (a uzamaki most likely) realized this and implanted The rinnegan Madara gave to Tobi Inside a???.... UZAMAKI that could handle and mold its power . Think about it.. He basically let Nagato mold its power and develop the eyes till he could steal and take them back with all the power the eyes gained from being with Nagato. And then transplant them with the power of the bijuus in his body giving him the ability to possess the eyes and use them. And the code name for the experiment, or project develop rennigan was.. NAGATO.. And this is when it started..

So he is a Uzamaki given the powers of senju and Uzamaki from the help of Madara. Im guessing oru and kabuto figured this out and wanted to mimic the experiment madara left off by experimenting on Danzou..

But non the less they are Both (kabuto and Madara) in the same book and the plan to Do what ever Madara (Kabuto now) was planing from the beginning.. But they do not know if Tobi is sticking to it....
Nagato's Dad!

But yeah, I think that Tobi is an Uzumaki, at least some part of him is.
 

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Tobi's Essence (Come!!)

Forgive my bad english >_<

To,Ju = 10
Bi,Bibu= Tail or Tails

I believe that "Tobi" is the 10 tails "Jubi" In Kun Reading Japanese Ju is replace with To. Making the name "Tobi" Ten Tails. The reason Tobi know so much about Ridoku "SO6P History is because he's the 10 tails its self in a body not his own.
The "SO6P" received the rinnengan from the 10 Tails "Tobi" Or "Jubi" (Same Meaning) Which makes sense when Tobi says
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Which would mean he also gave Madara the rinnengan no matter how it was obtained by this "Uchiha" making "Madara" a victim of this society as well a powerful victim reaching for his own type of peace as well. I see Saskue as a modern day "Madara" which this cycle of hate will end with the reborn sage "Naruto"
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As brought up befor when Tobi was speaking to Naruto the said "He Reminds me of him" and a picture of the first hokage showed up, I believe what Tobi really meant was Naruto Reminds Tobi (Ten Tails )
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Of Ridoku (SO6P)

The only other option of Tobi being anyone eles would be Izuna and even than, I can't picture Tobi being anyone eles but the Jubi Its self. Remember Jubi means Tobi Ju= 10 To= 10 Bi= Tails.

This would explain why he was a adult at the time the fox attacked konoha and why madara knows him. this manifestation (tobi) is able to go through time and space cause he is no one, he is just chakra from ten tail beast. Is this the reason for him to want all the parts from the nine tail beast? Which are to awaken the 10 tail beast, wich is awaken himself from slumber.

Lastly when Tobi said that technique was suppose to be saved for me! Referring to Nagato using Gedo Rinne Tensei Jutsu, maybe this Gedo Rinne Tensei was suppose to be used to bring back the Jubi's "Tobi's Orginal Form?

Your thoughts and ideas are warmly welcomed & whom ever you may think "tobi" is his ultimate goal to to achieve the 10 tails body which would make "Tobi" in the end the 10 tails regardless. Naruto "The Light" Tobi "The Darkness" & Saskue just falls in between and is a representation of the cycle that will be ended.

Could the Biju have been a human who's hate developed him into the beast (Tobi) And Ridoku be the Sage who stopped him. If Naruto is The New Sage Reborn..
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than Sasuke must be the new beast reborn!!
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Which would explain Tobi's interest in watching over Sasuke ( His new self )
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Re: Tobi's Essence (Come!!)

Yes similar to my former post but added the meaning behind the births of Naruto & Sasuke and Tobi's Interest in Sasuke!! Your humbled opinions are welcome
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naruto being the reincarnation of the so6p i can get, but sasuke being the new juubi just doesn't make sense, at all... the original theory of the reincarnations of senju vs uchiha makes more sense imo.

if tobi were the juubi, why would he develop the next uchiha? an individual with the eyes to control the kyuubi, and probably the juubi

Could the Biju have been a human who's hate developed him into the beast (Tobi) And Ridoku be the Sage who stopped him.
i liked this sentence though, sasuke's chakra has been getting more monstrous like with more hate, so it is possible. although the so6p was said to be the creator of ninjutsu.
 
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Re: Tobi's Essence (Come!!)

It makes sense at some point. This is probably the most logical idea compared to Obito, Shisui, Kagami theories.
 
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