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Again, Zetsu is know to been very knowledgeable. Sasuke mastered the sharingan in 3 years. It isn't impossible at all for Obito to master it too, including the fact he has Zetsu.
Tobi does not need to use Amaterasu and all the other techniques that comes with Mangekyou sharingan to prove that he can use it. He has never been in a situation where he has to. Tobi solely relies on his space time ninjutsu to defeat his opponents. Tobi high level space time ninjutsu is even superior than that of Amaterasu. When you think about it, Amaterasu will have no effect on Tobi at all. Neither does Kakashi's Kamui's Mangekyou Technique, he says this in the manga. So it appears Most of the Mangekyou techniques are inferior to Tobi's space/time ninjutsu. Tobi doesn't really need MS, especially now that he has Rinnegan.
Why not? Zetsu has been known to watch battles without anyone being aware of his presence. Zetsu favorite hobby, in case you didn't know is observing battles. Obito supposedly died during the Third Shinobi World War. Where do you think Zetsu would be during all of this warfare? Considering the fact he loves to watch people in battle. So based on what Zetsu favoriate hobby is, it is very likely that he witnessed Obito's fights during the Third Shinobi World war. Obito unlocked his sharingan at a very young age. Obito was only 12 when he unlocked his 2nd tomoe sharingan. This is thereby indicating that Obito had great potential of becoming a powerful Shinobi just like Sasuke considering the fact he unlocked his sharingan the same age Obito did. I'm pretty sure Zetsu perceived of his potential and decided to make good use of him. Again, based on Zetsu's favorite hobby, it's less likey that he wasn't there observing the battles that took place in the Third Shinobi World war. So based on the information we have on Zetsu, it's highly possible that he stumbled across Obito and caught his interest.
How do you know if Madara made him weak or not? There is nothing in the latest manga indicating that he made Zetsu powerful. Itachi say's he's a shell of his former self. Tobi implies this when he says he wishes to be ''complete''. On what we saw on Kakashi gaiden, half of Obito body was crushed. So now he wishes to be ''complete'' since he's only half of what he was. This is an implication that Madara didn't make his creation strong at all.
What do you mean he isn't capable? Anyone is capable of doing anything. Obito was not a ''noob''. Once again, Obito had great potential of becoming a powerful Uchiha. You are right, he could of taken another Uchiha as his vessel. But because of the situation and condition that Obito was in, it's highly possible he chose him as his vessel. A split of his body was crushed. Based on what we know about Zetsu, he is 2 different kind of people. He has a split personality. So because of that and only that, there is a high chance of him colliding with Obito, For he had only half of himself.
Um, what? lol
Perhaps it was due to the the rock that landed on the right side of his face., causing deformation to it. We can not maybe for certain if they are wrinkles. The fact that they are head bandages around his forehead, it's safe to assume maybe he's suffered some type of damage. From my perspective, it could be the rocks fell upon him,
Why is it impossible to believe Zetsu face would age? Zetsu has lived since the foundation of konoha. Surely this is to be expected. What makes you think he doesn't have a split personality like the other Zetsu's? Why is this unbelievable for you? If you've seen the latest chapters, Tobi would bleed out this white liquid substance. This is very relevant to Zetsu, Zetsu is also somewhat a white substance. This is something Tobi and Zetsu have in common. Black Zetsu is more serious and knowledge and White Zetsu carefree and going. Before Deidara died, Tobi was carefree and going. After Deidara's death, Tobi was more serious and knowledge and he still is. So because of the relevance Tobi has with Zetsu, it's safe to assume that he most likely has a split personality too. It's not impossible at all.
Again, Zetsu is know to been very knowledgeable. Sasuke mastered the sharingan in 3 years. It isn't impossible at all for Obito to master it too, including the fact he has Zetsu.
Tobi does not need to use Amaterasu and all the other techniques that comes with Mangekyou sharingan to prove that he can use it. He has never been in a situation where he has to. Tobi solely relies on his space time ninjutsu to defeat his opponents. Tobi high level space time ninjutsu is even superior than that of Amaterasu. When you think about it, Amaterasu will have no effect on Tobi at all. Neither does Kakashi's Kamui's Mangekyou Technique, he says this in the manga. So it appears Most of the Mangekyou techniques are inferior to Tobi's space/time ninjutsu. Tobi doesn't really need MS, especially now that he has Rinnegan.
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we (meaning most) always thought it was zetsu making him new arms but it could be edo i like it
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You're quoting me in pieces which makes my posts confusing. You're claiming Madara created Zetsu and for some reason he found Obito appealing simply for being an Uchiha but he is not anything special. I'm pretty sure it was stated he was inferior as far as Uchiha's go and not at all labeled a genius like Sasuke. In fact it would have made alot more sense for Madara to let him use Izuna's corpse. If he had anyone to be impressed by, it would have been Kakashi, not this sorry kid who got buried under a ton of rubble. You're mistaking Zetsu's duty as a hobby. He doesn't just watch random battles for fun, its his job in the akatsuki to report to Tobi those specific battles. I don't believe a Zetsu would age because its an artificial being. And again, I will say Tobi's behavior was simply acting. You do not see him speaking to himself as if he were two different people like black and white zetsu do. The bottom line is, there are hundreds of potetially better people for the original Zetsu to take over than Obito, Shisui being one of them, but it hasn't even been stated to be able to do that. It only fuses with other Zetsus not just random corpses. You don't see the Zetsu clones using the fallen shinobis' corpses in the middle of the war. If they could do that, they'd posses all their previous abilities and be overpowered.
You're quoting me in pieces which makes my posts confusing. You're claiming Madara created Zetsu and for some reason he found Obito appealing simply for being an Uchiha but he is not anything special. I'm pretty sure it was stated he was inferior as far as Uchiha's go and not at all labeled a genius like Sasuke. In fact it would have made alot more sense for Madara to let him use Izuna's corpse. If he had anyone to be impressed by, it would have been Kakashi, not this sorry kid who got buried under a ton of rubble. You're mistaking Zetsu's duty as a hobby. He doesn't just watch random battles for fun, its his job in the akatsuki to report to Tobi those specific battles. I don't believe a Zetsu would age because its an artificial being. And again, I will say Tobi's behavior was simply acting. You do not see him speaking to himself as if he were two different people like black and white zetsu do. The bottom line is, there are hundreds of potetially better people for the original Zetsu to take over than Obito, Shisui being one of them, but it hasn't even been stated to be able to do that. It only fuses with other Zetsus not just random corpses. You don't see the Zetsu clones using the fallen shinobis' corpses in the middle of the war. If they could do that, they'd posses all their previous abilities and be overpowered.
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Read what i say before you reply because it seems as if you didn't read not half of what i said to my previous reply to your previous post. Either that or you are just ignorant.
How does this make it confusing? Are you dizzy?
Actually read my posts before you reply to me because it seems as if you didn't read any of it. And Zetsu is a creation...... a creation out of the first hokages cells. Obito had great potential of being a powerful Uchiha. He mastered his sharingan the same age Sasuke did. Obito had potential of doing the things Sasuke was capable of doing. Due to this relevance between Obito and Sasuke, it's safe to say he's just as talented as Sasuke.
He doesn't need to be labeled a genius in order to become ''special'' or strong. Naruto is not a genius but he is just as powerful as Sasuke. Obito graduated from the Ninja Academy at the age of 9. while Sasuke graduated from the Ninja Academy at the of 12. Naruto was indicated of being inferior but he's past that now
Zetsu can not do this because he cannot use dead bodies for they do not have any chakra's in them. It'll be like drinking out of nothing in a bottle of empty water.
Why would he use Kakashi's body when his body cannot withstand the strain of the sharingan? Besides, i highly doubt Kakashi would comply of joining forces with him.
On occasions, it is his job. But it is stated in the databook that observing shinobi's fight is his hobby.
This is yet to be revealed, the same way his face hasn't been revealed. But because of the strong relevance he has with Zetsu due to the white liquid substance he ''bleeds'' out, it is highly possible he shares the characteristic of being a split person too. Tobi, since we first seen him was carefree and easy going and after the death of Deidara, he was more serious and knowledgable of things. So because of this and this only, it is highly possible that Tobi is indeed a split person.
Obito is perfect for Zetsu. A split of Obito's body was crushed beneath a huge rock. Obito in that condition achieved the characteristic of what kind of person Zetsu was. He was half and all he needed now was newer half of himself. I'm not going to argue with the fact he could be Shisui too for i think the same. If Tobi isn't Obito, then he is Shisui from my perspective.
Zetsu is known to eat corpses not possess them.
Read what i say before you reply because it seems as if you didn't read not half of what i said to my previous reply to your previous post. Either that or you are just ignorant.
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Oh so you admit he eats corpses but doesn't possess them. Then what exactly are you implying by him taking control of half of Obito's body, that Obito is following a Zetsu half of his own free will?
Oh so you admit he eats corpses but doesn't possess them. Then what exactly are you implying by him taking control of half of Obito's body, that Obito is following a Zetsu half of his own free will?
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Zetsu and Obito are united as 1. If you read my theory, you'd know i didn't say anything about him possessing anyone. This is you reading half of what i said and speculating on what you think was possibly said on the other half of my theory. Obito was in need of assistant and Zetsu saved him not to save his life but to use him. He's using Obito to same way he used Kisame. I can see Obito complying because he's experienced war and the pain it afflicted on himself. It separated him from his friends and his love ones including Rin. Zetsu most likely told him how to acquire true peace, which is the Moon's eye plan. It is almost impossible that Obito didn't want peace considering the fact what kind of person he was. Obito united with Zetsu sharing the same ambition like Zetsu which was achieving what they thought was the only way to have true peace.
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Yeah sure Obito would want peace but if he was told everyone in the whole world would have to be placed under a genjutsu to achieve it, he wouldn't agree to that nor would he be ok with attacking his former master and his newborn child, using the kyuubi to attempt to destroy Konoha, and then later wiping out the Uchiha clan with Itachi. You're also mistaken thinking Obito is the perfect candidate to be a half being because of the way he was crushed. He was buried, not sliced in half vertically. Tearing out the other half to make room for a Zetsu would most likely result in his immediate death.
Yeah sure Obito would want peace but if he was told everyone in the whole world would have to be placed under a genjutsu to achieve it, he wouldn't agree to that nor would he be ok with attacking his former master and his newborn child, using the kyuubi to attempt to destroy Konoha, and then later wiping out the Uchiha clan with Itachi. You're also mistaken thinking Obito is the perfect candidate to be a half being because of the way he was crushed. He was buried, not sliced in half vertically. Tearing out the other half to make room for a Zetsu would most likely result in his immediate death.
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Re: Tobi is really a woman?
I dont know about Minato's teammate, but if tobi is really a woman, it would be stunning, great theory!
I dont know about Minato's teammate, but if tobi is really a woman, it would be stunning, great theory!
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at last something that doesnt involve obito! although its unlikely, it cannot be disproved, great job!
at last something that doesnt involve obito! although its unlikely, it cannot be disproved, great job!
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