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Who do you think Tobi is:

  • Jubbi

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Sage of Six Paths

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Elder son of Sage of Sixth Path

    Votes: 65 9.3%
  • Izuna uchiha

    Votes: 105 15.0%
  • Kagami uchiha

    Votes: 71 10.1%
  • Obito Uchiha

    Votes: 77 11.0%
  • Fugaku Uchiha

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Zetsu

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Madara's split personality (created before original body died.)

    Votes: 66 9.4%
  • A copycat whose rolemodel is Madara.

    Votes: 13 1.9%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • An unknown Uchiha

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Real Madara in Zetsu body

    Votes: 28 4.0%
  • Some one from Madara's time ( can't decide though)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Danzou

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • Setsuna Uchiha

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Shisui

    Votes: 14 2.0%
  • An Uzumaki

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • Madara's Son

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • A woman

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Obito's father

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Someone Other than these

    Votes: 24 3.4%
  • First Edo tensie

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • An alien ( Superman/ HeMan/whatnot)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • I am the best. I have no theory. ( Not anymore at least.)

    Votes: 22 3.1%

  • Total voters
    700
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Re: Who is behind the Mask...

Madara also says "That someone was able to revive me into this kind of state". Why would he refer to his brother that way? Also remember one important thing. Tobi and Madara both said something very similar. They both claimed that Nagato was suppose to use that resurrection technique on them. Tobi said it obviously after Naruto beat Nagato, he actually said it to the black Zetsu. Madara assumes that he has been revived by Nagato when he first pops out of his coffin. If Izuna is alive why would he need that technique to be used on him self?
 

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Re: Who is behind the Mask...

Shogi: It cant b Madara technically cause a soul cant exist in two places at once. And we have seen Madara resurrected. So it isnt a possibility.

Nilloc Uzumaki: Now u mention it, not much is known about Kagami Uchiha. But it cant really b him beacuse that arises the question y Tobi has "Madara's" Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan?? And it is said the sharingan of a close family relative can be used to awaken Mangekyō Sharingan otherwise their eye-sight is sealed away. I think its Izuna as I said b4 He is twin brother of Madara. He would have a reason to attack the Leaf village for both revenge and power - since he lost his brother to the First Hokage: Hashirama Senju. It was said that "Tobi/Madara" gained his eternal from his brother who gave it to him.

Isnt it possible that Madara gave Izuna his Mangekyō Sharingan on his death bed after the battle??
No Tobi does not have Madara's EMS. go back and look at the manga, Tobi has never actually been seen with any eye other than a standard sharingan
 

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Re: Who is behind the Mask...

Lets look at what we know about the sharingan. If a sharingan is transplated with the maygenkyo then the eternal is unlocked. When Sasuke got Itachi's eyes he was basically blind. So instead of Madara stealing Izunas eyes, they simply swapped. Inturn both unlocking the Eternal? Madara just unfortunately got beaten. Leaving Izuna to avenge his death. Something along those lines.
You can't just swap eyes, the process requires both sets of eyes to be complete. There is a manga page explaining this

As you can see in the "statue" it clearly requires both sets of sharingan for the ritual to be complete
 
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Re: Who is behind the Mask...

I think it's Izuna and he's been using other people's bodies to last this long (like Oro). With that been said I think he's used Kagami's body before
 

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Re: Who is behind the Mask...

Hows he got a Sharingan then?? Stole it?? :shrug:
By just following what was written by previous person saying "A pure uchiha's hair once fully grown doesn't grow anymore", then, Tobi must be a non-Uichiha.

The possibility of having a sharingan can be easily explained by the examples or what Danzo did it or how Kakashi got his sharingan. :shrug:
 

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Re: Who is behind the Mask...

OBJECTION!

That's the wrong manga and it has nothing to do with Naruto nor the Uchiha Clan!
Ya I kno... wierd

By just following what was written by previous person saying "A pure uchiha's hair once fully grown doesn't grow anymore", then, Tobi must be a non-Uichiha.

The possibility of having a sharingan can be easily explained by the examples or what Danzo did it or how Kakashi got his sharingan. :shrug:
*Sighs* Maybe - but we know that a pure uchiha's hair grows non stop - it doesn't stop when fully grown U_U
 

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Re: Who is behind the Mask...

The real break down in all of this is the fact that everything we know about Izuna came from Itachi, who obviously learned it from Tobi. So I'm not really sure if we can go ahead and completely believe every aspect of it.

However, even if Izuna lost his eyes, why would he die? That's the really interesting aspect of this story. I'd bet he still lived or even if he managed to die, Madara revived him later with the Rin'negan but then off and died?

I still think there's a chance it could be Rikoudo's Older Child or Kagami Uchiha. Kagami is has a really weak basis because we know nothing and there aren't any clues that point toward him. If it was him, then perhaps Danzo vs Sasuke, would've left some subtle clue.
 

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Re: Who is behind the Mask...

The real break down in all of this is the fact that everything we know about Izuna came from Itachi, who obviously learned it from Tobi. So I'm not really sure if we can go ahead and completely believe every aspect of it.

However, even if Izuna lost his eyes, why would he die? That's the really interesting aspect of this story. I'd bet he still lived or even if he managed to die, Madara revived him later with the Rin'negan but then off and died?

I still think there's a chance it could be Rikoudo's Older Child or Kagami Uchiha. Kagami is has a really weak basis because we know nothing and there aren't any clues that point toward him. If it was him, then perhaps Danzo vs Sasuke, would've left some subtle clue.
Ya I agree when Tobi was telling the story abt how "his" bother "Izuna" gave him the eyes to gain the EMS. It sounded like he was saying he gave his eyes to the real Madara... Its subtle but u can really c it through his body posture and how he speaks that he is talking abt himself....

Abt the theory Rikoudo's older child or Kagami Uchiha - what purpose would they have to attack the leaf village?? I can't think of any... so I doubt it can be them.
 
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Re: Who is behind the Mask...

Ya I agree when Tobi was telling the story abt how "his" bother "Izuna" gave him the eyes to gain the EMS. It sounded like he was saying he gave his eyes to the real Madara... Its subtle but u can really c it through his body posture and how he speaks that he is talking abt himself....

Abt the theory Rikoudo's older child or Kagami Uchiha - what purpose would they have to attack the leaf village?? I can't think of any... so I doubt it can be them.
I got the vibe that he was just writing himself off a bit too quickly when he told Sasuke the story too.
 

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Re: Who is behind the Mask...

Idk who Tobi really is, but i can't wait to find out, btw i just ran into this pic Kishi still trolling as it seems :D
 

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Re: Who is behind the Mask...

Im pretty sure its Izuna... Because I did a bit of reasearch and found an old picture of Tobi with his older mask. when I compared it the hairstyle to both Madara and Izuna it turned out closest to Izuna....
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By looking at these pictures I conclude that it is Izuna Uchiha - Madara's Brother.... If you looks closely enough u can see the similarities. The only difference now is that Izuna doesnt have his hair tied back....

Also I would like to point out that both Madara and Izuna are twins by the look of things.... Madara just has his hair let out loose and his brother has it tied up...

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What do you think?? Who is behind the mask???
nice theory
 
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