[Theory] Tobi: Thread for all Tobi theories and related discussions .

Who do you think Tobi is:

  • Jubbi

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Sage of Six Paths

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Elder son of Sage of Sixth Path

    Votes: 65 9.3%
  • Izuna uchiha

    Votes: 105 15.0%
  • Kagami uchiha

    Votes: 71 10.1%
  • Obito Uchiha

    Votes: 77 11.0%
  • Fugaku Uchiha

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Zetsu

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Madara's split personality (created before original body died.)

    Votes: 66 9.4%
  • A copycat whose rolemodel is Madara.

    Votes: 13 1.9%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • An unknown Uchiha

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Real Madara in Zetsu body

    Votes: 28 4.0%
  • Some one from Madara's time ( can't decide though)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Danzou

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • Setsuna Uchiha

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Shisui

    Votes: 14 2.0%
  • An Uzumaki

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • Madara's Son

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • A woman

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Obito's father

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Someone Other than these

    Votes: 24 3.4%
  • First Edo tensie

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • An alien ( Superman/ HeMan/whatnot)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • I am the best. I have no theory. ( Not anymore at least.)

    Votes: 22 3.1%

  • Total voters
    700
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Re: A Theory...

It may be possible since he has been using Madara's name so freely now that I think about it, maybe he decided to claim the name for giving the eyes to him. Also he may have finished Madara off when he was weakened and thats why he shit himself when Madara came out of the coffin xD
 

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Re: A Theory...

the idea itself seems farfetched though... Tobi just seems to be a random guy nobody knows about.
I personally think he's half a zetsu, half Tobi.
 

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Re: Proof for my earlier kagami tobi thread

Just because it shows a random Uchiha doesn't mean that he's Tobi. C'mon now. I can just as easily say that one of the Uchihas it showed in flashbacks when Tobi was explaining the truth to Sasuke can be Tobi!
 

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Re: Proof for my earlier kagami tobi thread

I can just as easily say that one of the Uchihas it showed in flashbacks when Tobi was explaining the truth to Sasuke can be Tobi

This is true and

"doesnt it make sense a little with tobi trying to go thorough with madaras plans and all"

It does make sense a little as you say but is it proof? No. Is true? No.
 

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Re: Official Tobi ID thread:All Tobi theories go here:-

There are a lot of nice theories from u guys...
But i dont know
Most of your theories failed because u focus on the point why it could be the person and u ignore the points which say that it cant be him
But it doenst matter now

I mean after nagato used his technique to revive the leaf shinobi
Tobi said that he thought nagato would use this jutsu for him
But im not sure how to understand this
Did he mean for himself (madara?!)
Or for his plan which is related to madara
(i think theres no doubt tobi wanted madara to be alive)
And when kabuto summoned him with edo tensei
He wasnt really scared of madara himself
It was that he realised his plan almost failed
Although i dont know why he would wanted madara to be alive

I know that it should be impossible that tobi is madara
But we all know kishi is a genius
Maybe he has a conclusion that makes sense that tobi is madara
Or some kind of madara

Another thing i was thinking about is hashirama..
We dont know how he died
We just know he died young
I mean when oro summoned him he didnt seem to be old
So im very sure he was killed by somebody
But who would be able to kill the hokage who defeated madara and the kyuubi???
But that aaaall is just a guess
Maybe it was just an accident and he run into a kunai while training xDDDD


And what about nagato?!
I mean madara asked if he was revived by him
But it is impossible that he ever met him before

Oh man im going crazy!!!

My guess is that madara and tobi planned all of this
But i dont have any idea who tobi could be
I delivered just some stuff to think about
 

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Re: Tobi's right sharingan has same ability as kakashi's left?

@soulreaper11

Hmmm why does everyone think tobi is older than kakashi ?
When he fought with Mintao, he could have been about the same age as kakashi.
(In the Anime there was a scene with kakashi).

Which knowledge you are talking about ?
 

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Re: Tobi's right sharingan has same ability as kakashi's left?

@soulreaper11

Hmmm why does everyone think tobi is older than kakashi ?
When he fought with Mintao, he could have been about the same age as kakashi.
(In the Anime there was a scene with kakashi).

Which knowledge you are talking about ?
Because he's as wrinkly as a prune :p
 

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Re: Tobi's right sharingan has same ability as kakashi's left?

lools that technically sums up everything - - -

its the same for me - until he warps a whole body and him self away - then i wont fall for it
lol back to you, seems like you don't read very well manga. Every single eye has different technique. For example, itachi's right eye was the amaterasu and left eye was Tsukuyomi. Both eyes will not have the same technique as the other one.

tobi needs physical contact to warp things to different dimension with his right eye while kakashi doesn't need physical contact to warp things to another dimension left eye.
 
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Re: Tobi's right sharingan has same ability as kakashi's left?

lol back to you, seems like you don't read very well manga. Every single eye has different technique. For example, itachi's right eye was the amaterasu and left eye was Tsukuyomi. Both eyes will not have the same technique as the other one.

tobi needs physical contact to warp things to different dimension with his right eye while kakashi doesn't need physical contact to warp things to another dimension left eye.
Plus Tobi uses the other dimension to store people or things, they are not actually killed but if kakashi sucks them in it´s more like a black hole.

and another thing which kept me thinking is, why would tobi hide his left eye. When he used Izanagi, it was clear he had one. We also know if the User is not the owner of the eye it´s constantly on. Which means he lost it somehow.
 

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Re: Tobi's right sharingan has same ability as kakashi's left?

I can admit it. I agree with you. No one wants it to be Obito but I think the evidence for it being Obito is kinda overwhelming.

Similar eye techniqque
Approriate opposite eye sides
Obito was crushed could explain the appearance under the mask
People like to use the hair argument which im not that into, but it could work
Also I think Obito would have motive after his ordeal and want peace for the ninja world.
 

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Re: Tobi's right sharingan has same ability as kakashi's left?

When Tobi faced Kohan he called her a girl meaning he has seniority over her. Also Akatsuki is older than Kakashi or Orbito. Akatsuki was created when the orphans were are 16. How could Tobi have created Akatsuki if he'd had been around 4or 5 then. Orbito is dead leave him be. He died a hero that created Kakashi and the Rakari. Without the Sharingan Kakashi could have never mastered it and 1,000 jutsu
 

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Please read before creating another theory about Tobi and Obito.

In the last week, I've came across loads of Tobi is Obito theories. I thought all this hype was over, but apperently that's not the case. :|

I'm creating this thread and fervently hoping that it might be able to make some people let go of that idea.
I'm going to list all the facts that negate the possibility of Tobi being Obito and debunk the most common claims.

Here goes nothing...

Claim 1 - Tobi is Obito because his warping is the same as Kamui.

First of all; no. It's not the same as Kamui.
Kamui doesn't require physical contact to send things into another dimension.
It's very similar to Kamui, with it's whirlpool pattern and the way it works, but it's not the same. More like a derivation of it.

Plus, we still don't know if Tobi's warping ability has anything to do with his doujutsu or not. But seeing that it tends to originate from his right eye and he decided to keep his right Sharingan even after acquiring the Rinnegan, it's a debatable point.

Even if Tobi has MS and his warping is due to that, there's an easy way to debunk Tobi is Obito.

Each MS has a different ability.

Itachi' right MS had Amaterasu and his left one had Tsukuyomi.
Sasuke's right MS has Kagutsuchi and a lower powered Tsukuyomi while his left one has Amaterasu.
We know that Shisui's left eye had Kotoamatsukami, but it's not clear if his right eye had anything. Danzo just used a hax genjutsu via Shisui's eye to mindf*ck the Kage's and Mifune, not anything as strong as Kotoamatsukami.

From Itachi and Sasuke's techniques, we can probably say that MS techniques are genetic.
The closer the relativity, the more similar the technique.

Anyways, I'm drifting off topic here. The thing is, a pair of MS doesn't have same or similar techniques in each eye.

Claim 2 - Tobi can be Obito, the timelines fit.

No.
The timelines don't f*cking fit.
The first we saw of Tobi was 16 years ago. Obito is around the same age as Kakashi. Kakashi was 14-15 years old back then. That's the age Obito would have been if he was alive.

I'm entirely skipping the how could a bloody 15 year old be able to do all of that argument, because it has been stated many times and it seems as if it doesn't get across.

If you haven't noticed, Kishi tends to make 15-16 year olds quite a lot shorter than grown ups.
We've seen Kakashi and Gai 16 years ago, they had the same build Naruto has at the moment. Obito would have been the same.

Minato's height was 179.2 cm back then.
The approximate height of teenagers is 165-166 cm in Narutoverse.

Tobi and Minato had similar heights.
Tobi could not have been Obito.
Case closed. :|

Claim 3 - Obito could hold a grudge against Konoha after being crushed because he was still alive and no one came to save him.

Now this is just stretching the boundaries of appliable logic.
Obito was a Naruto-like character. He sacrificed himself for the sake of his comrades and gave Kakashi his eye in the last moment, even though they didn't get along that well.

Do you really think that such a character would hold a grudge against an entire village just because he didn't die when even himself stated that he was already a gonner?

Plus, if he was to hold a grudge, he would have slain Kakashi a long time ago. He had a lot of opportunities when he visited Naruto during the Kage summit arc or when team 7 reunited.

Anyways, disregarding all of the above, Tobi could very well possess Obito's DNA, seeing that he has a sh*tload of Sharingan's at his disposal. He could even have his eye stacked up in his shelves if it wasn't destroyed for all I care.

But Tobi is definitely not Obito in person.

Over and out. :|
 
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Re: Please read before creating another theory about Tobi and Obito.

so... you say obito is not tobi in person using evidence that he may be? +rep for being out of this world
 

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Re: Please read before creating another theory about Tobi and Obito.

why don't every just post the theories they have into one thread and make it most popular so the making of new threads stop.
 

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Re: Please read before creating another theory about Tobi and Obito.

You mixed the eyes around. Tobi kept his right* Sharingan. And Danzo took Shisui's right* eye. Or else, good job. Well, not sure about Shisui.
 
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