TOBI- The real plan

MisterX

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My theory:
Tobi's plan isn't the juubi and the tsukuyoumi!

Here's my theoretical explanation for why i think that:

1) Tobi is no moron, he's portrayed as being super intelligent, having knowledge about almost everything AND he is stupid enough to tell his plan at the 5 kage summit..:
-his plan might be to draw every shinobi out, so he can defeat them all at once?
-he wants the shinobi on the battlefield and not somewhere else?
-he wants to give them a fighting chance and be a gentleman?
-he's bored and wants some show?
-no reason at all, just kishi wanting to make it more interesting and just putting a wan in the picture??

And couldn't go instead of Taka to just suck in the hachibi, and sucking in Naruto when they spoke..
neither of them could've dodged being sucked in..

instead he tells the kages about his plan, lets them keep naruto in hiding, and starting a god damn war, that just makes it more likely for him to lose..

2) tobi told naruto that he is just someone who'd make sasuke more powerful and that they'd both fight (so he wants naruto and sasuke to fight, not to use kurama's chackra)
there is sth else - Orochimaru has always been interested in sasuke and not Naruto - if he took naruto's body he'd have the power of Kurama but he wanted sasuke, so he thinks sasuke has more potential

3) why'd tobi want sasuke to become powerful? if he's just going to put everybody under tsukuyomi??

maby his plan is for sasuke to become the new jinjuriki.. hmmm



Other thoughts:

Tobi doesn't want to kill or seal naruto, he wants naruto to become stronger
otherwise he could've killed/sealed him a 100 times:
1) first encounter during the sasuke/itachi fight - tobi could've sucked naruto in
2)during the 5 kage summit when they spoke
3)during the battle between jinjuriki, and using the sealing jar, kinkaku was in, or using rinnegan to get close to naruto and pull out his soul like nagato would've done if itachi didn't save naruto
4)during the jinjuriki fight just sucking him in, he had like 10 chances at least
etc.



There is a thread about how Tobi might have Obito's eye (cause he couldn't dematerialise when kakashi used kamui, and that's how naruto cracked his mask) and that's why kamui doesn't work on tobi/gedo mazou, cause they cancel each other out and a lot of people noted the eye was smashed BUT tobi could've just taken some dna from obito and cloned him(he cloned Hashirama for god's sake) and taken the eye of the clone.
Why? you'd ask? for the same reason he has a storage room full of sharingans



I'm sure there is sth I'm forgeting to add, but I'll when sth comes to my mind.

I'd like to hear your thoughts and theories.
 

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It would be interesting if his entire plan was to threaten the 5 nations with war and a lie to have them become one single force and bring peace among them.
 

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Who Read it ????

If your going to keep trolling everyones threads i suggest you gtfo before someone reports you.

And i think your theory might be plausible, bringing everyone out on the same battlefield to kill all of them at once. Thats a very good idea, it might happen.
 

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Some of these are good points. +Rep
 

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just thought about sth.

there was said that tobi must touch someone in order to suck him AND this has been shown to be true vs Minato, vs danzou's bodyguards etc.

BUT when he's sucked someone in and then returns them back, he doesn't go the where the person is and touch him +
when he saved sasuke from tsuchikage's particle technique he couldn't have touched sasuke, and when Danzou was about to decapitate sasuke tobi was ready to suck him in but was far away and coudn't touch him

this tells us that the first time he has to touch the person but not the next times, so when he touches someone he just markes him as Minato did

that's why he could follow minato after he teleported to the safehouse location

SO this leads me to think his space/time is not a sharingan jutsu but rather similar to Minato's
Minato himself said sth like: this is a better version of my teleportation jutsu

and to why does he suck into his sharingan:
well this hole was the only part of tobi's body that is not covered and hidden, so he might suck into the flesh itself not the sharingan
 

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i thin he wanted sasuke's eyes because susano'o is a rarity
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tobi is bad ......big time baaaaaaaaad! he is not a optimistic type to unite other.he's just another guy who say"it's world domination!baby"....
 

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If your going to keep trolling everyones threads i suggest you gtfo before someone reports you.

And i think your theory might be plausible, bringing everyone out on the same battlefield to kill all of them at once. Thats a very good idea, it might happen.

Dont Threaten Me if you wanna Report Just do it LMAO You angry Kid
 

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Chubby sage !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

your theory makes sense why would he want peace who is he
 
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So the bijuu´s capture by akatsuki, the mazou and the jubii´s summon are just tricks to make naruto and sasuke get more powerful? don´t think so
 

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If your going to keep trolling everyones threads i suggest you gtfo before someone reports you.

And i think your theory might be plausible, bringing everyone out on the same battlefield to kill all of them at once. Thats a very good idea, it might happen.

shiiiiit kid's mad as hell....Did you miss your naptime today?
 

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So the bijuu´s capture by akatsuki, the mazou and the jubii´s summon are just tricks to make naruto and sasuke get more powerful? don´t think so

Okay just one queation, why didn't he suck Bee in instead of sending sasuke and why when talking to naruto at the 5 kage summit didn't he also suck him in, extract the bijuu and ressurect the juubi and executing the Moon eye's plan without anyone realising.

I know this is Plot no jutsu, so the manga didn't end at the kage summit bit kishi must give a reason as to why things are the way they are now with the war
 

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So the bijuu´s capture by akatsuki, the mazou and the jubii´s summon are just tricks to make naruto and sasuke get more powerful? don´t think so
no i didn't say that, I said it he might want sasuke to become strong enough to be the jinjuriki or sth like that, sasuke deffinitely has a role in his plan which is at least a bit different than we think.

c'mon, tobi has planned everything for years, and has waited atleast years for the right moment,
he knew madara, knew the exact day of labor of Kushina and attacked then, retreated, controlled the Mizukage, controlled the Akatsuki in secrecy, having secret identity, and being the biggest anigma from all the characters

AND you see all the stupid moves he made and think it's just normal??

I mean c'mon..
 
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Okay just one queation, why didn't he suck Bee in instead of sending sasuke and why when talking to naruto at the 5 kage summit didn't he also suck him in, extract the bijuu and ressurect the juubi and executing the Moon eye's plan without anyone realising.

I know this is Plot no jutsu, so the manga didn't end at the kage summit bit kishi must give a reason as to why things are the way they are now with the war

You´ve just said it: plot no jutsu. I think it´s just a hole in the plot, hopefully kishi will explain it someday.
 
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